I’m late to the party again – I was thinking it was The Stig (unmasked) ๐
Roger Smith.
……..Ben I think the Voodoo cockpit has been discussed previously, I seem to remember that the fire section won’t relinquish it!
I don’t think it’s theirs to relinquish
Roger Smith.
First time at waddington – didn’t realise there was more ’round the corner’.
There was no map supplied with my ticket……..
Same for me. However I did buy a programme with a map in it and saw a couple of the large mapboards ๐ฎ
Thankfully I spotted this area ’round the corner’ – but only five minutes before my transport was due to leave. VERY QUICK scoot around to take a few pics and that was it ๐
Roger Smith.
Shame – especially as it was a very rare example of a non-indigenous type built in the USA for the US Military.
Roger Smith.
The non-parallel interplane struts are fairly distinctive – as is the very slender rear fuselage.
Roger Smith.
Looking at the one at Waddington yesterday. It was rather hidden away from airshow visitors with sign on the main drag to “sit in a fighter cockpit” pointing nowhere. I did find it eventually adjacent to No. 3 Sqdn building but couldn’t get a decent photo of it (too much stuff around the nose).
On exitting Waddington am I right I saw a Phantom fin lying in the grass just inside the peri fence a few hundred yards from the Vulcan???
Roger Smith.
Jon and Bruce – thanks for that.
Jon if I see a short nose around I shall ask on your behalf (but don’t hold your breath !!)
OK Firebex looks like CF out of the picture – thanks anyway.
Saw in one of the new mags that Bournemouth Museum are starting(?) on restoration of their T.11
Roger Smith.
Moggy, have you been cavorting with Ms. Truss again?:diablo:
Roger Smith.
Was helping out on a Venom nose at Airbase that is being prepared to go on display.
It is (I think) missing it’s radios. Am I right in thinking they go in the two squarish hatches either side just aft of the seat? Don’t know if they are the same as a T.11’s and I don’t know if they are needed – will enquire.
Roger Smith.
…… Now the world air speed record, on the other hand… ……. Both the UK and US do suffer from the ‘not invented here’ syndrome; and an over-belief that all the good stuff’s native. It’s interesting how aviation’s history changes when you travel from these two somewhat insular world views…… Yours Glosterly,
Darn it I forgot (temporarily) the World Speed record ๐ฎ
I’m as proud as anyone at Britain’s achievements in aviation but, yes, I agree. One of my gripes with the RAFM Cold War exhibition is that it’s only got one Soviet aircraft in it – a MiG-21 hidden away in a corner.
Anyway, back to Syria.
Roger Smith
Much as I’m a fan of the type, why would the Smithsonian want one? It has no great US connection I’m aware of nor any great technical merit (over peer types, IMHO, but accepting it has a great export record, including to S America, but not Canada, tellingly.)
Or am I missing something?
One can make a reason for almost any aeroplane to be included in almost any museum ๐
I haven’t looked at NASM’s Collecting Policy but assume as it is a World class museum it does not collect solely US types or those that have a direct connection with the US. This is verified on viewing the listing of their collection.
The Gloster Meteor was, arguably, the first (some say second) gas turbine powered aircraft to enter service.
The Meteor took an active part in WW2 – NASM have large numbers of non-US types from both WW2 and WW1 that were built and operated by their allies and enemies. You could, perhaps, draw a direct parallel between the Meteor (end of WW2) and the Sopwith Snipe (end of WW1) in the collection.
The Meteor played a role in the Korean War which, although to be accurate was a UN led conflict, most Americans (I would say) think of as a US vs. communists war.
The Meteor was the first operational aircraft to utilise the Whittle jet engine – the engine which launched the US aero gas turbine industry. From what I remember of my only visit to the Smithsonian Von Ohain is given far greater prominence than Whittle largely, I thought, because of the inclusion of the Me 262 on display.
Look at some of the other types in the NASM collection and tell me which are more deserving than the Meteor:
Antonov An.2
Cierva C8.w
Dassault Falcon 20
Extra 260
Grunau Baby
Hispano HA-200 :confused:
MiG 21
SAAB J-29
Sukhoi Su 26 and Yakovlev Yak 18 aerobatic aeroplanes.
I rest my case ๐
Roger Smith.
Oh to wander over to the aircraft dump!
The impression is they are (or were) spread about the airfield as decoys. How good they are in that role is questionable – are there any current military types of the same configuration (engine in each wing)??
Roger Smith.
………..โeducation/researchโ ………. (P.S. A small prize will be given to anybody spotting a spelling or punctuation mistake in my post…..if I’ve made one! :o)
should be a comma after “research”. I claim MY prize :D:D
Roger Smith.
That is great news – IF they can be made available. Any indication of what marks they are?
I am saddened by the lack of recognition of/appreciation for the Meteor in the USA – particularly that The Smithsonian don’t have one in their collection.
A quick google shows a Meteor Flight report in February – but of 12 Meteors.
Roger Smith.
Very sad – but got to recognise, I suppose, that if no use can be found for all those factory buildings what can be done but demolish them?
Not sure of the value of preserving the water tower on it’s own though.
Roger Smith.