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  • in reply to: British post-war commercial aircraft survivors #1215967
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    Thanks to replies

    T.O. – have put XX492 in the list although not sure about the wisdom of including all military Jetstreams, same for DH Dominies. Perhaps just those in Museums???

    Keith – added Cosford’s York.

    Jon – is that the van Nuys Prince N???? I seem to recall it moved elsewhere in California a while back, have added but will have to search that one.

    Pondskater – your list of Short ‘boats added. I reckon the Fantasy of Flight Sunderland is fair game like Cosford’s York.

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Potez 63 #1215969
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    Thanks for those yakman. Any idea what engines he’s planning to install?

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Bristol 170 Mk.32 Superfreighter #1219051
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    ……. as this will be a full scale flying model……. Dave.

    WOW :diablo::diablo:

    No, I did see the earlier reference to 1/11 scale :D:D You planning to have 1/11 scale perion R/C cars to drive in and out of it??

    Welcome to the forum (and it’s sense of humoiur)

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: British Commercial aircraft types – postwar #1219059
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    twin engine feederliner…ugly. Cunliffe-Owen Concordia.

    Yep alertken, Easty and Garry that’s the one.
    Garry, have added the Belfast due to it’s important civil career. Also added the Avro C.19 – they were built for civil customers. IMHO the Nene Viking is still a Viking? (The Tudor underwent a similar transformation)
    D1566, I think the Wayfarer can be regarded as a development of the 170.
    dailee, point taken and HDM 105 removed.
    keith and garry – Lincolnian added.

    I think that has answered everyone so here is the current version of the types list. Maybe tomorrow start a new thread using it to list what is still around.

    Anyone got strong opinions about not including single-engined types?

    BRITISH POST WAR COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT (multi-engined, fixed wing types)

    Airspeed Consul
    Airspeed Ambassador
    Armstrong Whitworth Apollo
    Armstrong Whitworth Argosy
    ATL Accountant
    ATL Carvair
    Avro York?
    Avro Lancastrian
    Avro Lincolnian
    Avro 19
    Avro Tudor
    Avro Ashton
    Avro 748
    BAe ATP
    BAC 1-11
    BAC/Sud Concorde
    Beagle 206
    Blackburn Universal
    Bristol Brabazon
    Bristol Freighter
    Bristol Britannia
    Britten Norman Islander (early only)
    Britten Norman Trislander
    Cunliffe Owen Concordia
    DH Comet
    DH Dove
    DH Heron
    DH Trident
    DH 125 (early only)
    DH/BAe 146 (early only)
    Fairey Rotodyne
    HP Halton
    HP Hermes
    HP Herald
    HP/Scottish Aviation Jetstream
    Miles Aerovan
    Miles/HP Marathon
    Miles Merchantman
    Percival Merganser
    Percival Prince/President
    SARO Princess
    Scottish Aviation Twin Pioneer
    Short Sandringham
    Short Solent
    Short Sealand
    Short Belfast (ex military)
    Short Skyvan
    Short 330/360
    Vickers Viking
    Vickers Viscount
    Vickers Vanguard
    Vickers VC.10

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: British Commercial aircraft types – postwar #1219571
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    There are two or three types that have undergone extensive development (and change) over the years – yes Jon the Jetstream is one but also the DH 125 and DH/HS/BAe/Avro 146.

    I thought it would be easier to lump the variants together – although the addition of a third engine, etc to the Islander did, IMHO, make it a different aeroplane??

    I’m sure there is a small, twin engine feederliner from the ’50s I’ve missed?? Like the Accountant only one built and ugly.

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: British Commercial aircraft types – postwar #1219582
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    My comment about the Envoy should, of course, have read Consul.

    Garry, was thinking originally of not including helicopters but the Rotodyne bridges a gap between fixed and rotary wing types. The Sycamore, Widgeon (and I guess the Westminster) also fall out as single engined types.

    ……And I assume that the Jetstream 61 would come under the Avro 748.

    :confused::confused:
    Trislander added though.

    I guess I should add the BAe ATP??

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: British Commercial aircraft types – postwar #1219795
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    How could I have missed the gorgeous Ambassador 😮 , yep the Universal.

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: British Commercial aircraft types – postwar #1219807
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    Sorry Garry – thought a starting point would be a complete list of commercial types to show also what is missing. Can’t see anyone ever filling the “gaps” though ie building the likes of a replica Halton 🙂

    Moggy the Optica is single-engined – don’t know whether including single-engined types will confuse the list with “private” rather than “commercial”

    megalith at this stage I thought of excluding cockpit sections – “larger” elements (eg Comet fuselage at London Colney) would be included. De-militarised aircraft I thought could be included if the type was also built for civil opreators (eg Prince). what do others think?

    Missed the Airsped Envoy?

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Proctor's Restoration Update #1219957
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    Thanks for the update TC – great to see the progress

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Napier Lion Engines – Survivors #1223204
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    That’s looking great Andy.

    I had missed your post of 31st January with the Smithsonian photos/info 😮
    Thanks for that – have added the info to the lists.

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Comet at Lyneham no longer doomed….! #1224294
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    Bruce, you’re a large self sustaining ball of nuclear fusion driffting through space!

    Is that a compliment or an insult???? 😀 – IF it’s a compliment I agree

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Comet at Lyneham no longer doomed….! #1225686
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    Nice to see the Comet 1.
    I’m glad it survived and is well taken care of…..

    Has the RAFMuseum taken the Cosford Comet into their official collection or just agreed to continue looking after it? I’m guessing it might still havel been outside if the Cold War Exhibition hadn’t been built freeing up hangar space. It was outside a long time before going inside 2 1/2 years ago.

    [/QUOTE=J Boyle;1416536]….The Museum of Flight (Seattle) has a preserved AA 727-200 and the prototype (later UAL) 727 preserved, and I’d guess as non-test AC they have their passenger interiors..and are in airline colours.[/QUOTE]
    Chicago Museum has a B.727 (one wing removed) on internal display.

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Comet at Lyneham no longer doomed….! #1227763
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    Reading Bruce’s comments about the C.2 being outside at Lyneham for 27 years and the likely effect on it’s condition – how long was Cosford’s outside for??

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Comet at Lyneham no longer doomed….! #1227816
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    ……Can’t help thinking she would look great at Coventry next to the Viscount. Steve

    The original plan when setting up the present site at Coventry was for three large types relating to the two main themes (Whittle and local) – a pure jet military type, a pure jet civil type and a prop-jet. A Comet was a prime candidate for that 2nd type but that was a long time ago and things change and there is a Viscount there now.

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Bessonneau hangar on ebay! #1230119
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    I know there was alot of talk recently about trying to rescue the Odiham one but why bother when you can buy one on ebay!

    yes, but the Odiham one is complete and ‘useable’ this is not – the vendor does point out that some of the timber. a;; of the canvas cladding and the ropes will require replacing. Would be a great project though.

    It looks as though it is a “type H” – as is the one at Odiham and the one under threat at Coventry. There is probably no connection to the Coventry example as it came from Weathersfield some years ago. I recently came across a mention of three “Bessonneau Type H” hangars being sold from Whitley aerodrome (only about a mile from where the Coventry survivor is situated) just after WW1 – this could well have been the source for that one.

    Roger Smith.

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