Another idea is to telephone Sywell Airport and ask them for a contact number.
Roger Smith.
…..Fligergruppen rot-wiess-rot and the Wien-Schwechat samlung…..
Flegerregiment 1, Flegerhorst Brumowski. Tel. 02272-623080 approx 5km south-east of Tulin off road to konigstetten.
Fliegerhorst Hinterstoisser Tel. 03577-225360 6km east of Judenburg off Road 78
Both are “Prior Permission Only”
Roger Smith.
From Bob Ogden’s “Aviation Museums and Collections of Mainland Europe” (Air Britain, 2006) there is:
Fliegergruppe Rot-Wiess-Rot, Langenlebarn;
Flugzeug-Oldies, Wien – you know of this but Bob said “closed for building development”;
Heeresgeschichtliches Museum, Wien;
Technishes Museum Fur Industrie Und Gewerbe – you know of;
Wien-Schwechat Sammlung, Schwechat.
Hope this helps.
Roger Smith.
Many years ago…90-91 I think, by the look of the jeans of that lady behind me!
Now there’s an enthusiast – can tell the date of a photo by looking at a woman’s a**e in shot :D:D:D
Roger Smith.
I was there volunteering today (and tomorrow) – hope you enjoyed your flight Rob.
I was mainly escorting persons into the other side of the hangar but one group stopped for quite a while looking at G-AKRP in pieces. One chap (who had just flown in ‘IDL) seemed to find it hard to believe the wooden bits and pieces he was looking at – the same as the bits and pieces of the aircraft he had flown in – weren’t metal!!
Later the Chief Engineer gave me (and some interested visitors) some information on the restoration of ‘KRP. The three, linked, steel tubes that form a main spar running under the fuselage and through the inboard lower wings are having to be replaced with newly manufactured items. The original spec/size of tube is no longer available and a special 500m run would have cost ยฃ10,000 (I think he said). Luckily one steel supplier had a guy who had returned to employment after retiring and his contacts were able to suppy enough tube of the required size and to an equivalent specification that the CAA are happy with.
The reason the original is not fit for flight anymore? The original design had two parallel flanges for a pair of bracing wires to bolt to. There is a gap between to two flanges and a gap in the tube were they are welded to it that allows rainwater to ingress into the tube, then no way for it to get out. After all these years it’s got rusty and no good for flight anymore.
Thought I would share this fascinating mini-lecture with you.
Roger Smith.
Found it (thanks Planemike) page 322/ref ITA67 in aforementioned guide.
Name: Raccolta Della Base Di Cameri.
Address: Aeroporto Militare, SS Bellinzago, 28060 Cameri.
Location: about 10Km north of Novara between Cameri and Bellinzago.
Telephone: 0321 616222
Admission: by prior permission only.
Bob’s exhibit list differs a bit (ie 2 x F-86 Sabres and 2 x F-104s)
So it looks as if you might have to write or telephone unless anyone else can come up with anything else. Hope this helps.
Roger Smith.
I have Bob Ogden’s “Aviation Museums and Collections of Mainland Europe” and will have a look for Cameri – if you tell me where it is! (and, ideally, what some of the exhibits are).
Roger Smith.
……with Paris being about as โnorthโ as my better half probably has in mind……. Don
If you can stretch her a bit more, into Belgium, the Brussels Museum shouldn’t be missed.
Roger Smith.
Were there two aces named Mike Crossley from Lancashire?
Thunderbird lists Lt. Cdr. Mike Crossley (Lt. Cdr. R.M.Crossley – author of “They Gave Me A Seafire”) but there was also an RAF ace Mike Crossley who may have come from the county.
He was a son of the Crossley Motors (of Manchester?) family and although the family home when he joined the RAF was in Banbury I suspect he was born in Lancashire. A BoB pilot he rose to the rank of Wg. Cdr.
Crossley Motors owned Avro for a while until they sold it to J.D.Siddeley – I think marking the start of what was to become Hawker-Siddeley.
Roger Smith.
Comics were my first – “Eagle” and “Lion” both of which contained stories like “Battler Brittain” and cut-away drawings, sometimes of aeroplanes, the former in colour the latter in black and white. Cutting these out and keeping these was, I am sure, the start of my ‘squrrel’ habit that annoyed my parents and then my wife (she’s given up moaning now).
First book was the Dumpy already mentioned and the Observer’s aircraft books – a treat at several Chritmases.
Roger Smith.
I think the company name is Kigas and they still trade in Warwick.
Roger Smith.
…….. and I just so happened to have an engagement ring squirrelled away, I popped the question on ‘558s last past. ๐
Well, did she say “yes”? and are we all invited to the wedding :diablo:
Roger Smith.
Thanks GFR – information added.
Thanks Mark – ditto.
I’m having internet connection problems at present – my excuse if my posts ar erratic (time-wise) ๐ฎ
Roger Smith.
A84-232 Thanks have added those in – does 9M-ASB also belong to Australian Aviation Museum?
Archer those two added. Like Jetsteams, DH Dominies will hold off on the RAF VC.10s (unless “in preservation”)
garry no am not including noses – really needs to be a complete fuselage (made an exception with the Ashton at Newark due to it’s rarity.
Thanks again.
Roger Smith.
Thanks for replies again folks – list updated.
Garry – I reckon thos Navy Jestreams would qualify as they were built as civil machines. ‘PWJ c/n corrected and fueslage of ‘OVS added
T.O. “post-war” to keep it manageable? but, saying that, there are actually so few pre-war types left so perhaps add them in later??
A84-232 thanks.
Mark thanks for those three (added) is that Moorabin??, any previous idents?
wcfcfan Wrecks & Relics lists XX105 complete and XX919 is only a nose – is that right?
WJ244 I should have got that one as it has been in my locality for a good while (with Air Atlantique), think it’s G-AORG but I’m not sure of current status or location.
DavidS/WJ244 yep the ex RAFMuseum Consul VR-SCD at Singapore added. Is that it’s true identity and was it G-AITB or ‘TF??
richellis Trident ‘WZK added
cometguy Dove ‘REA added and RAFMuseum Comet regn corrected
LindysLad Jetsream and S.330 added
GFR yes. do you have any identities for it, current owner???
dailee yes Beagle 206 G-ARRM added – is it with Shoreham Aircraft Museum?(presume it’s stil owned by Brooklands Museum) Have also added G-ASWJ -= shame on me for omitting that one when I was involved (a little bit) in getting it for MAM) ๐ฎ
I think thats replied/thanked everyone. I’m still picking through Wrecks and Relics but
KEEP ‘EM COMING
Roger Smith.