Hi aeromuseum – welcome to the forum.
I would go along with MH in going in with an established museum. Your proposal is a bit specialised and unless, as Mondariz suggests, you are somewhere where bored tourists will visit (but that is seasonal and you would have to ‘survive’ through the closed season) you may have difficulty getting enough people through the door to make it viable.
Presumably you are located in S.Wales – why not approach the Carew Control Tower Group at Cheriton, Pembroke? Other alternative to try not to far away is the Helicopter Museum at Weston-Super-Mare (well there are aerobatic helicopters nowadays 🙂 )
Roger Smith.
AHO… and AHM… are Dunlop sub assembly/part numbers and with three figure digits are perhaps late 30s/early 40s
Roger Smith.
To be absolutely clear topspeed is talking about a World Aircraft Speed Record, is that propeller driven or specifically with a piston engine?
What is the current record and held by who/what?
Roger Smith.
Hmmm, why not moor it on the Tees, and open it to the public as a tourist attraction, for a few years before putting the torch to it. You’ve got to think laterally in these hard economic times!
I like that idea – with the weakness of the £ more Brits holidaying at home and more foreign visitors.
However just think of all the H&S issues associated with opening it to the public.
Roger Smith.
Sorry – source was David Cenciotti – quote “according to some sources, the aircraft should be the XV355/FJ stored after retirement at RAF Coltishall.”
Anyone got the right identity?
Roger Smith
Nice pictures. Looks like access is relativly good, despite the aircraft hanging from the ceiling. I never really understood why museums are so keen to suspend aicraft with wires. Surely we all know they are flying machines and can enjoy them without such a visual reminder.
Quite simply – economics.
You can get far more aeroplanes per sq.ft. of floorspace if visitors can walk under rather than around!
Roger Smith.
ps – agree, nice set of pics.
David, the AW.650 Argosy was initially designed for the civilian marhet with the large swing doors – one at the front and one at the rear. This was to enable “roll on, roll off” ie loading cargo at one end whilst unloading at the other – to minimise time on the ground.
The second Argosy (G-APRL – now preserved at the Midland A.M.) was used to test the “beaver tail” for the RAF (to enable para-dropping loads) and on those built for the RAF the front swing door was omitted. After tests were concluded ‘PRL was converted back to normal civil configuration.
Incidentally it is only a few weeks since the 50th anniversary of the maiden flight of the first Argosy – 8th January, 1959 at Bitteswell, Leicestershire.
Roger Smith.
Despite my interest in all things AWA, looking at postfade’s excellent photos (no. 3 inparticular) I never realized the military Argosy had what appears to be a crew hatch under the nose.
Does anyone know if this was for use in emergencies as well?
Roger Smith.
The Patricia Roc film (“Millions Like Us”) has Short Stirlings as it’s main draw !
She’s (supposed) to be working on ’em (or bits related), whilst her ‘Love-Interest’ (a very young Gordon Jackson, ‘ex’ ‘Great-Escape’/’Professionals’), is part of Stirling Aircrew.
Can’t remember how much is featured of ’em, but it’s gotta be worth picking up ?
Patricia Roc was such a great-beauty in her time 😎
I remember reading an article in a magazine many years ago (20?) that said that filming for “Millions Like Us” was done in Armstrong Whitworth’s Baginton factory – the Whitley being hardly top secret by that time.
I was greatly excited and made extensive enquiries to get the loan of a copy to arrange a public viewing in Coventry. This proved very difficult and the idea came to nought.
Just as well really as when, years after, it eventually appeared on tv I taped it and played it over and over – what a disappointment. There is, as I remember, virtually nothing in the film’s background recognisable as an aeroplane (Whitley or otherwise) or parts thereof.
However I shall get the DVD and study it again.
Roger Smith.
Albert,
didn’t she do gate duty at Scampton between Blackpool and East Kirby?
Roger Smith.
Thanks Bravoalpha
Roger Smith.
wasn’t the RAFM’s example moved to Hendon the same way?
Roger Smith.
You are, presumably, talking of the AW.650/660 Argosy and not the 1920’s airliner.
Have you tried the museums that have preserved examples – Midland A.M. or East Midlands Aeropark (and, of course, RAFM Cosford). Midland A.M.will have a great deal of Argosy info.
Roger Smith.
This picture makes me think of the end of “The Tale Of CockRobin” – a little dead bird on it’s back with legs pointing skywards.
….and I’m dying to know the significance of the piece of rope linking the rear end to the nearby (undamaged) lamppost :D:D.
Roger Smith.
It looks to be based on the Bleriot – as seemed to be a lot of designs at that time! The tail looks different – is it a biplane tail?
I wonder if Bleriot ever tried to sue anyone for copying his designs?
Roger Smith.