I would have to disagree on this one for the simple fact that I think our German Friends would make a case for the Me262 as the first Practical Jet Powered Combat Aircraft.
Now if you want to say the only first Generation Jet Powered Combat Aircraft left then maybe.
Scorpion, I think historians might never agree as to which (Me262 or Meteor) actually entered service first – both during June, 1944. The important point with the Cosford example it is the very first Meteor.
It is ironic that all the other surviving Meteors entered service after the end of hostilities wheras all the surviving Me262s were built before then.
Roger Smith.
…..The qualification “allied” seems to belie world significance. The basis for retaining this aircraft, it seems to me, is that it is the first jet aircraft that still exists. It may seem lame, but not really such a bad criterion…..August
I think another significant factor is that, despite being beaten into the air by the Heinkel 178, the E28/39 was the flying test-bed for the Whittle engine and Frank Whittle was the first person to run a gas turbine engine – arguably the the most significant World aeronautical development after the Wright brother’s flight.
Roger Smith.
For the record this Electra is/was c/n 1128, LN-FON (info from Stephen Reglar)
Roger Smith
Thanks folks – good ol’ google !!
Roger Smith.
Have you tried Bob Ogden’s “Aviation Museums & Collections of Mainland Europe”? pub. Air Britain.
Roger Smith.
Really?
Most people would know their brother’s name.
It could just help.
Moggy
Thats it Moggy – encourage the guy with a few kind words 😡
Roger Smith.
It was Humber Monoplane replica (BAPC9) on loan from the Midland A.M.
Now on display at the Museum it was originally built as a Bleriot IX by “military apprentices for use in a Royal Tournament” (I assume 1959 to commemorate the 50th anniversary of Bleriot’s crossing of the English Channel) and then acquired by the Shuttleworth Collection. Passed on loan to the Midland A.P.S. (c.1970) who, by the addition of an original Humber 3-cyl engine and a scratch-built propellor, turned it into a replica of a Humber Monoplane. The Humber Co. of Coventry built a quantity of Bleriot’s (under licence?) in 1909/10.
Birmingham Airport and the Midland A.M. were in talks to display an aircraft in the new terminal and, initially, it was hoped that DH Fox Moth G-ACCB would be restored to static for display there but that wasn’t to be.
Have photos of the ‘unveiling’ by Sheila Scott can post if anyone interested.
The Humber was removed some years later when the space occupied by it was to be taken up by the construction of a full first floor.
Roger Smith.
The fuselage frame of an Agricola was donated to the Midland Aircraft Preservation Society (fore runner of Midland A.M.) about 1968 – haven’t got my records to hand – along with an AOP 9 fuselage. I’m pretty sure the frame was that of VP-GAZ.
A couple of years later the two frames were exchanged for some ‘slightly bent’ Tiger Moth wings (to be used in the restoration of Fox Moth G-ACCB) with the South Wales Historic Aircraft Preservation Society.
I’m not sure what happened to the two fuselages when SWHAPS closed down some years later.
I’ll see if I can find my photo’ of the two fuselages on a hired self-drive truck about to depart for South Wales.Roger Smith.
Found the photo for anyone interested 🙂 . The “AOP9” fuselage was, in fact, believed to be an AOP6. The photo looks to have been taken outside of Berkswell Forge so, I assume, Ken Woolley (long time guardian of Foster Wikner Wicko G-AFJB) had been storing the Auster bits.
Roger Smith.
Armstrong Whitworth AW.52 TS363 landed itself with not much damage on May 30th, 1949 after pilot J. Lancaster ejected. This was the first emergency use of a Martin Baker seat in the UK.
Roger Smith.
Interesting question.
Taking a quick glance at Jack Bruce’s “Britain’s First Warplanes” the first national markings appear to be the ‘union jack’ (sometimes the naval white ensign).
The first roundel I can see appears to be just two colours – a white disc surrounded by ?? . By the tone one roundel outer looks as though it might have been red rather than blue? The roundels also appear to have preceeded the use of tricolour stripes of the fin/rudder.
It would be fascinating to know what international talks/agreements took place to determine which country would use what markings.
I’m sure someone with knowledge of this subject will contribute.
Roger Smith.
I think it IS the airfield that is proposed for use as the new ECO town.
However LM is but one of three sites in the Midlands and a much larger number throughout England (or UK?) being considered for this proposal. I’m sure other airfields/ex airfields are included in the full list.
Roger Smith.
Further to twinotter’s post and in the hope of further enlightenment of anyone interested I have scanned four pages of the NAHR 2nd edition from 2001 (the current one). Hopefully these are attached
Roger Smith.
Rolls Royce produced Lycoming (American) horizontally-opposed (flat 4 & flat 6 ??) engines in the 60’s and 70’s I think.
Roger Smith.
London planes vs Southampton ones :diablo:
Would be interesting to see the plans for the new museum – must try a google
Roger Smith
From 1956 to 1960 I was quite an avid spotter. Unfortunately I didn’t have a camera that worked but here is a photo one of my friends took of me standing on the remains of Viscount G-ALWE at Coley’s Scrapyard in Hanworth/Hounslow…………Ian
By strange coincidence at a car boot/antique fair a week ago I saw on one stand two large tinplate toys/models (about 14-15″ span). One was of a DC-6 in KLM marks – just like AA’s G-APSA a couple of miles from where I was stood – the other of Viscount G-ALWE (the next in series to ‘LWF at Duxford).
Regrettably the stand was being looked after by a “youth” who had no idea how much they were for sale for 🙁
If G-ALWE was in a scrapyard between 1956 & 1960 it had a very short life – what happened to it?
Roger Smith.