“Aaaaaah de Havilland”
An opportune time to remind that the 30th International Moth Rally is at Woburn on 15th & 16th August – I’m hoping to be there. The website says expecting 100+ Moths (including Chipmunks)
Roger Smith.
A detailed look at 1930s airliner development would be welcome. It was a fascinating period, going from biplanes and heavily strutted fixed gear aircraft like the Boulton Paul P.71, D.H. 86, and H.P. 45 Hannibal class, while American carriers were still flying a mix of late 20s vintage Fords and wood-winged Fokkers and a series of single-engine types (Boeings, Northrups, wooden Lockheeds). Competitive pressure from the Boeing 247 gave birth to the DC-1-2-3 awhile Lockheed produced the state of the art (and less economical) 10-12-14-18 range. European airliners had by the mid to late 30s, caught up in design (if not in the long life and profit producing potential of the DCs) with Fait G.18s, Bloch 220s, and the D.H. Albatross and Flamingo (while continuing on with fabric biplanes the 89, 90) while Shorts continued to make flying boats (unaware as was Boeing, Martin and Consolidated in the US) that the civil flying boat market wouldn’t last through the next decade. And as an aside, we had a series of aircraft o that were more or less a new series of bombers in civil guise: the S.M. 79 in Italy, the German Do 17 and He 111, French Amiot 340, and a fast transport, the Bristol 142 Britain First which was, effectively, the Blenheim prototype………….
I agree although you miss out the Argosy, Atalanta and Ensign, all from Armstrong Whitworth and which alone encapsulate a 10 – 12 year period of progress.
Another topic I would like to see covered is the introduction of jet technology into action in the military. The Me 262 is, probably, amply covered, but the Meteor and the P-80 far less so. And, did any Japanese jet types actually see action?
Roger Smith.
A lovely-looking machine. Thanks for telling us about it.
It would be a delight to see in English skies but it’s an awfully long way.
Roger Smith.
I, too, am appalled at this news.
I’ve never been to the deep store but I believe it is fairly remote. That fact is worrying as the opportunity is there for thieves to get there with little chance of detection. So, the chance of re-occurrence may be high.
DoraNineFan’s idea of a CCTV camera/recorder set up is good – perhaps including a camera on the road/track in/out of the site that will record visiting vehicle’s number plate. Seek the advice of the constabulary and draw upon their expertise.
Roger Smith.
I thought they did a lot of internal restoration to the Varsity as well.
I, too, would rather see it further from the sea but was there anyone else interested in acquiring and moving it from Duxford?
I’m sure the volunteers making up the new group will give her lots more attention.
Roger Smith.
In the meantime The Classic Air Force continues at the re-opened Airbase, Coventry.
The weekend just gone saw pleasure flights on Saturday and Sunday in the Rapide (‘IDL) and Chipmunk, a pop concert on Saturday evening, the Vulcan Goodbye flyover on Sunday along with an aerojumble and the Meteor NF.11 departing to/arriving back from a display at Cleethorpes.
Next Saturday (4th July) is the second flying display of this year at Coventry with “The Baginton Air Pageant” a bit of a fond throw-back to the 1950s air displays at Baginton Aerodrome when that event was the venue for The King’s Cup. Included (and the highlight for me) will be a ‘just-for-fun re-creation of The King’s Cup with handicappers to try and achieve those exciting finishes I can remember as the pilots dived for the finish line. Spectators will be able to enter a competition to win a flight in the winning aircraft.
Go to: http://www.classicairforce.com/
Roger Smith.
Marvellous to hear of this project. Good luck – I shall sit quietly on the sidelines watching progress with great interest (and hope, that you get it finished before I fall off me perch 😀 :angel: ).
Roger Smith.
Thanks Edgar/Eddie – satisfied my curiosity for me.
Roger Smith.
I can only suggest additional types as I haven’t read any of the (so far) published titles. Will gladly express views if there are any free samples going :highly_amused:
Like pop groups or Hollywood stars any list of icons is affected by it’s date of creation. So, as the likes of the Lancaster, P-51, Spitfire, me.262, Hunter, etc. have already been covered so many times, I would go further back. What were the iconic aircraft in the 30 years before WW2?
Vickers Vimy – due to it’s pioneering flights but also covering it’s operational career in the RAF and it’s various derivatives.
DH.60 Moth – again many pioneering flights but also role as a sporting light aeroplane.
Bleriot XI – it did a lot more than being the first aircraft to fly the English Channel.
Boeing 247
Avro 504 – operational career and it’s importance in helping make the UK population ‘air-minded’
DH.88 Comet
Hawker Hart and derivatives
Gloster Gladiator
Supermarine S.6b – perhaps also covering the other famous (iconic in their time) Schneider racers ie Macchi, Curtiss.
Fokker Eindekker
Boeing 707
Zeppelin (do airships count?)
I could go on…… (and on…)
Roger Smith.
Edgar, have you deciphered the signature on that document?
I am not familiar with Guy Gibson’s signature but that looks like a capital G, then something, capital G, l (or i?), b, o, n.
Apologies for the topic diversion.
Roger Smith.
……. Chino for example uses a multitude of different coloured T-Shirts to denote the role you are playing, with the folks on the ramp wearing a fetching shade of bright pink this year…….
Isn’t that what the US Navy do aboard their carriers?
Roger Smith.
The list comes from a book on Jaguar by Philip Porter….
Thanks Rich,
Roger Smith.
The list comes from a book on Jaguar by Philip Porter….
Thanks Rich,
Roger Smith.
Simply to expand Richw_82’s aircraft content….
It is said that William Lyons of S.S.Cars sought permission from John Siddeley of Armstrong Siddeley to use the name “Jaguar” (as in Armstrong Siddeley radial aero engine) to rename his company and throw off the name S.S.
That’s an impressive list of aero production work Rich – did you research it yourself or is it published in one of the Jaguar books?
I watched the programme (I was born and raised only about a mile from the Browns Lane factory) and one point I remember from it was someone at Goodwood who seemed pleased with Jaguar’s action as it meant enthusiasts will be able to see racing E-types racing as the 12 originals either won’t be raced because they are to valuable (£5 m was mentioned) or, if they are, the drivers will hold back so as not to risk damage.
Roger Smith.
Simply to expand Richw_82’s aircraft content….
It is said that William Lyons of S.S.Cars sought permission from John Siddeley of Armstrong Siddeley to use the name “Jaguar” (as in Armstrong Siddeley radial aero engine) to rename his company and throw off the name S.S.
That’s an impressive list of aero production work Rich – did you research it yourself or is it published in one of the Jaguar books?
I watched the programme (I was born and raised only about a mile from the Browns Lane factory) and one point I remember from it was someone at Goodwood who seemed pleased with Jaguar’s action as it meant enthusiasts will be able to see racing E-types racing as the 12 originals either won’t be raced because they are to valuable (£5 m was mentioned) or, if they are, the drivers will hold back so as not to risk damage.
Roger Smith.