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  • in reply to: Armstron Whithworth Siskin #1305545
    RPSmith
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    Ping Roger, how much AW history has MAM managed to preserve? Apologies as I know your present sit with them 😮

    Well, there’s a question – good job I’m suffering from a bit of imsomnia at the moment :p

    Of all the “big players” of British aircraft companies Sir W.G.Armstrong Whitworth & Co is the one most poorly represented with preserved airframes. A handful of Argosy 650/660 freighters are all that survive as complete aircraft.

    MAM has the 2nd Argosy built G-APRL (the 1st is preserved at Yankee Air Museum in Michigan, USA) and a collection of post-war AWA-built jet fighters.
    Meteor NF.14 and Seahawk (which were both sold as AWA aircraft), Javelin and Hunter were all built at Baginton. AWA built components for other firms including the Vulcan (fin and rudder I think) which also underwent mods/servicing with AWA at Bitteswell. A piece of Bristol 188 (elevon?) is displayed as built by AWA. The Siskin wing already mentioned is accomanied by an Atlas undercarraige leg and an unidentified ‘wingtip’ – it may be from a Siskin lower wing. The tail section (rear fuselage plus various horizontal and vertical tailplanes – but no rear turrret) of Whitley N1498(?) although on display is now difficult to see. It used to be accompanied by a large chunk of the same aircraft’s wing but I think that was returned to the RAFM. Many years ago (before the Whitley Project started) I wanted MAM to act as a repository for all and any Whitley bits salvaged off mountainsides but the idea never found favour. Nearby is a fin from a Lincoln (many Lincolns were built by AWA).

    There is a display case with various AWA sporting trophies in and there is on display a quantity of post-war wind tunnel and promotional models. The promotional models include a large scale model (1/24th ??) of an Argosy sitting on an airport apron with switches to operate/open both front and rear doors and turn the four propellors. The company’s own ‘history display’ – a complete set of same-scale models of every aircraft type that AWA built is on display and there must be a good collection of small bits and pieces acquired over the years.

    Photographically – there ought to be a good collection of photos but I have absolutely no idea of what it might contain (the library system has long been a mystery to me). Although I did ‘engineer’ a loan of a photo album aeons ago the story of which illustrates the loss of company documents thrown out when Bitteswell closed. Someone I knew had been working at Bitteswell during the close-down and told of ‘skip-fulls’ of paper material. The item he rescued and, later, loaned to MAM (I dont know if the Museum still has it) was a photo-album with a large quantity of company photographs showing stages of construction of the AW.52G research glider – including the laminar-flow wing Hurricane.

    What survived of company paperwork has been variously reported as being transferred to Gloster (Hucclecote?) and/or Avro (Chadderton??).

    That’s about the extent of my off-the-cuff knowledge.

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Armstron Whithworth Siskin #1305882
    RPSmith
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    The Siskin wing on display at MAM (about a mile from where it was built – if it was constructed by the parent company) is one of three the RAFM have. I believe they are all uppers from the same side.

    I remember someone saying previously on this forum they knew someone in Warwickshire with a Siskin rudder.

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: aircraft undercarrige design #1306617
    RPSmith
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    I’ve sometimes wondered if the oddity that was the Stirlings undercarraige might have been due to Shorts having made a series of large aeroplanes without undercarraiges for quite a while.

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Come fly aboard a PBY (Catalina) #1306685
    RPSmith
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    Thanks for those Tim – fabulous.

    Was suprised looking at image 4 (working down from top) that the Cat was in the water (the splash and go?) but the tip float was still retracted.

    Roger Smith.

    RPSmith
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    Lottery Grants

    Didn’t the IHM have a Lottery grant some years ago and, IIRC, are preparing for another one???

    Roger Smith.

    RPSmith
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    The Science Museum has an amazing collection of aeronautica that for many years has carried the title ‘The National Aeronautical Collection’.

    The SM went through an aircraft “collecting phase” a few decades ago acquiring, at that time, many of the aircraft now at Wroughton, Connie, Trident, B.247, DC-3, DH 84, Piaggio P.166, etc. However that “phase” stopped and I don’t think they have added another airframe to the NAC in the last 20 years (but I may be wrong).

    The video seems to show a DH/BAe 146, a Beech Staggerwing, a red 1930s US racer(?) and a B.E2(???) will this project re-awaken their interest in expanding the NAC? – pity they missed the Cosford B.707

    I seem to remember reading that if this project is built Wroughton would lose it’s status as an airfield denying any active historic aeroplanes from displaying. Is that the case – the video shows what might be still a runway?

    Finally – what are the other schemes competing for this £50m Lottery Award? I think the very impressive looking Isle of Sheppey aviation heritage scheme is in a Lottery Award scheme – is it the same one?

    The “flythrough” video can be found on http://www.fbhvc.co.uk.

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Martin Mars to California #1308952
    RPSmith
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    Wasn’t there a 747 being set up to do this by Evergreen? that is heavy firepower!.

    Anybody know what the proposed capacity of this is to be and the fill up/release times?

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Any Recent Good Books? – Tell Here! #1312372
    RPSmith
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    Just picked up Bill Gunston’s “Bombers of the West” at a car boot sale for 50p:) 🙂

    I have had his “Fighters of the Fifties” for many years and very much enjoyed reading it – and occasionally dip into it again.

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Raf Sculthorpe most intact surviving airbase #1312376
    RPSmith
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    Thanks for posting those archive shots Joe – nice to see them.

    Which museum/group were you with?

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Raf Sculthorpe most intact surviving airbase #1315333
    RPSmith
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    Sculthorpe – a name very familiar to us older preservationists.

    It was the USAF base that, 30 years ago, the French A.F. flew back their remaining T-33s, F-100s and Mysteres. These were loaned out to many new UK museums/collections the members of which spent many happy(?) hours dismantling and loading onto lorries.

    Memories – trying to stay upright on the wing of an F-100 when it was covered with early-morning frost, those strange “phillips” type screw heads with the off-set slots, the cooperation between different groups.

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: XH558….Today was the day #1316981
    RPSmith
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    I think I caught the take-off on Sky live at 12.28?
    Their production was bad but at least they did some coverage. I presume they broadcast Sky News to a wider audience than the UK which might account for their attention on benazir Bhutto.
    I watched/flicked between BBC and ITV main/Midland lunchtime news and not a mention of the Vulcan. Come to that I don’t think either of them gave much, if any, coverage to the event in Pakistan.

    I’ve had my doubts but they’ve done it – well done to all concerned and I look forward to my turn to get to see “XH885” (:D 😀 ) back in her element.

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: De Havilland PS26-6 Gyron #1321468
    RPSmith
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    Sorry – shopuld have engaged brain before releasing fingers onto keyboard:(

    From the BAPC engines list

    Gyron – 1953, 20 000-27 000lbt, J ax, n*, 4200lb
    Unknown marks:
    Hatfield Polytechnic
    Hendon
    RRHT Derby
    Science Museum
    Shuttleworth

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: De Havilland PS26-6 Gyron #1321470
    RPSmith
    Participant

    I know the Gyron is a pretty rare piece of hardware. Is the one at De Havilland Heritage Centre the only survivor?

    Roger Smith

    in reply to: RAFM closed area photos #1323232
    RPSmith
    Participant

    ….. Sunderland ML 824 was saved by the Sunderland trust which was set up by Peter Thomas later to found Skyfame….. ….. His son is planning to write a book about his fathers battle to save our air heritage at a time when few official bodies had any interest…..

    That’s good to hear – although I was naively critical of Skyfame in it’s latter days we all owe a great deal to Peter Thomas.

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Box Brownie 1952 Heathrow shots #1323236
    RPSmith
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    Great to see these. They would probably not be accepted to be printed in a magazine but on here you can share them with many people who enjoy looking at them. Thanks.

    Roger Smith.

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