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January 5, 2009 at 3:57 am in reply to: What Was Most Significant to Britain – the B17, B24 or Lancaster? #1172742

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It would appear from the comments (so far), that the weight of opinion is for the B24’s in Coastal Command, however as could be reasonably expected, the Lancaster runs a close second.

Poor old B17’s haven’t had a lot of posting advocating for them so far.

Personally I hadn’t considered the B24 and the battle of the Atlantic.

Being an Aussie, I always think of the B24’s that flew missions from Australia and I have a soft spot for them.

My uncle was on B24’s as a WAG, trained as a pilot and then they said, too many pilots so its off to being a WAG for you. He ended up the war being a squadron leader WAG – unusual (from what I remember being told as a kid). He was involved in a lot of missions over New Guinea and Indonesia. He was based in the north of Western Australia, not sure which airfield.

cheers

January 2, 2009 at 11:43 pm in reply to: What Was Most Significant to Britain – the B17, B24 or Lancaster? #1174536

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Most Most significant contribution to the liberation of Europe? Any of the above but probably the P47, Typhoon, Mosquito need adding to the question (along with a myriad of others)

What about the P51 and its role as a long range bomber escort?

January 2, 2009 at 11:41 pm in reply to: What Was Most Significant to Britain – the B17, B24 or Lancaster? #1174542

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Galdri

I was just editing a posting that I was making and I hope that opens up the question a bit.

By the way the saying I have heard is “Those that can do…., those that can’t teach…., and those that can’t teach write books about it!

cheers

January 2, 2009 at 11:19 pm in reply to: What Was Most Significant to Britain – the B17, B24 or Lancaster? #1174554

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When I posted this topic I wanted people to make a value judgment. I wanted people to include all of the allied air forces in their deliberations.

I hope that helps those who were wondering about the parameters of the thread. In reality I suggest there is an answer, but we may not be able to determine it because we have insufficient information. The postings so far have been very interesting and maybe the suggestion that we need to include all bombers is very valid. As for the crews, some were wasted on pointless missions, other crews carried out critical and pivotal missions – no doubt however that all were brave and did their duty to the best of their ability.

But hey – give it some thought and have a go! Feel free to re-phrase the question if you think that is needed.

January 2, 2009 at 12:19 pm in reply to: Edgar Percival – and the Percival Aircraft #1175094

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Mark

I forwarded your photo on to a friend and received a reply which contained the following:

“I remember this – I was there at the time, Wodonga, November 1976! Quite an occasion – but no trilby! I was still in my teens”

quite a co-incidence I think. (I have de-identified the reply – no names no pack drill!)

cheers
Ross

January 2, 2009 at 10:24 am in reply to: Edgar Percival – and the Percival Aircraft #1175194

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Mark

Thanks for the info, another question, is VH-UXS under active restoration?

cheers
Ross

January 2, 2009 at 8:38 am in reply to: Edgar Percival – and the Percival Aircraft #1175304

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Ron

That’s a great photo and VH-CCM belongs to a friend of mine. Pity I don’t have his email.

Mark

I am interested in the Under Restoration
Vega Gull II VH-BQA
Proctor I VH-UXS

strangly enough, I am completely familar with the restoration of VH-AHY. Is VH-BQA the one Leigh has? and did it once belong to Lord Casey?

cheers
Ross

January 2, 2009 at 1:28 am in reply to: So What Aviation Stuff Have You Been Doing Over The Hols? #1175430

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worked on my Proctor fuselage – front section. Ply skin is 1.5mm ply running at 45 degrees to centre line – damm

January 2, 2009 at 1:20 am in reply to: Edgar Percival – and the Percival Aircraft #1175440

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When chasing the drawings for the Proctor, I was told that Percival Aircraft was sold to another english aircraft manufacturing company and the owner of that company hated Edgar and ordered that the drawings be destroyed

I can’t remember where I heard it, does anyone else recall hearing a story along those lines?

What sources of Percival Aircraft Drawings are there, any in the UK?

Who is restoring VH-EPN?

cheers

December 27, 2008 at 4:57 am in reply to: Progress Shots on Proctor #1181544

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Feel free to put them up

This has been a 22year project so far, people have been born, grownup and had kids who are now going to kindy during the time I have been working on this.

As regards The ply, I am thinking of getting some specially made. It can be hoop pine marine ply (the spec is for high quality commercial ply)

Gkue K134

cheers

December 27, 2008 at 1:55 am in reply to: Gipsy Queen 30 Tools #1181595

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While you are thinking about it, I am after Gipsy Queen 2 parts and tools for my Proctor Project.

cheers

December 8, 2008 at 5:27 am in reply to: Spitfire wing..a new view #1200175

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have a look at the spar loading from an eliptical wing vs that from a rectangular form wing and you will really see why eliptical has an advantage

from wikipedia

“An elliptical wing is a wing planform shape, first seen on aircraft in the 1930s, which minimizes induced drag. Elliptical taper shortens the chord near the wingtips in such a way that all parts of the wing experience equivalent downwash, and lift at the wing tips is essentially zero, improving aerodynamic efficiency due to a greater Oswald efficiency number in the induced drag equation.”

also consider wing loading and where the stall occurs across the wing.

that might add a bit of engineering fact into the argument

cheers

December 3, 2008 at 11:00 pm in reply to: Miles Messenger memories #1203511

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Flew a Miles Messenger a couple of times, don’t remember it as being anything special in terms of handling.

I think the sense of flying a historical aeroplane is the “special” aspect. This one was rebuilt by Bill Thompson in Brisbane, Australia. Bill did a total rebuild on the aeroplane. I remember Bill went out to Charlieville and recovered the remains of one from there to help with the rebuild.

cheers

November 28, 2008 at 5:12 am in reply to: What's it Worth…… #1209741

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Percival Proctor Mk1 – rebuild to flying. Price is a strange thing, its worth what someone is prepared to pay. A metal fitting that might fit my project may be worth nothing to someone without a proctor project, say $10 if I already have one and it is a non-wear item, and $300 if I am desperate to have one.

The instruments you have aren’t rare and I have some – hence the comment A$200 if they had a release tag and were recently overhauled, then the price would be significiently more. Basically I was prepared to speculate on them and I know people periodically are after things like that and I would have something to swap.

cheers

November 26, 2008 at 9:51 pm in reply to: What's it Worth…… #1210944

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I know that if I was chasing the instruments for my project, I would value it at about A$200 per servicable instrument, as for the bare panel itself, I wouldn’t pay much say $10 because I wouldn’t want it.

so from what you say is serviceable at least A$600 – if its in Australia and you want to sell it, send me a PM I may be interested
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