Alex,
The remains of SE-AYR constitute about 70 % of a complete aircraft. I have no idea when the Swedish Air Force Museum will begin to restore her. The remains have been stored since they were recovered in 1984.
Incidentally, during the 1950s, an Osprey was stored at Wing F 21 for possible display at the Air Force Museum. After some time, however, it was decided that the Osprey was merely occupying needed hangar space. As a result, the Osprey was used as a gunnery target instead.
BTW, Have you tried contacting Mikael Forslund, the author of the S 9 Osprey book?
Regards,
Jan
As far as I know, the rebuild hasn’t started yet.
Regards,
Jan
There are quite a lot of Seabees currently flying. Watch the link below.
Also, the Seabee had its 15 minutes of fame in the 1974 James Bond movie “The Man With the Golden Gun”. The Seabee used, and intentionally destroyed in the movie was N87545.
Regards,
Jan
The French AF deployed P-63C Kingcobras from 1949 until 1951. The last fifteen were withdrawn from use in 1951, and went to a disposal centre, Parc 482, at Bach Mai. No airframes were returned to France.
There’s a great article by Alain Pelletier on the French P-63s in Indochina in Air Enthusiast, issue 72. The article contains a list of all 114 P-63s received by the French. There’s also a brief mention of possible Kingcobras remaining in Vietnam.
Mark12, as the French used Spitfires in Indochina, is it possible that anything remains in Vietnam?
Regarding the Skyraiders, no less than 23 were noted at Bien Hoa in 1998. Only one was identified, A-1E Bu 132596. From memory, the Flypast article featuring these aircraft was written by someone from the company Aces High, and published in the early ‘nineties.
One A-1H, Bu 139723, was noted at the VPAF Museum in Hanoi in October 2002. Two A-1Hs can be found in Ho Chi Minh City, Bu 139674 at the War Remnants Museum, present between November 1997 and October 2002, and the wreck of s/n 287 at the Ho Chi Minh Campaign Museum, noted between November 1998 and December 2000. The latter Skyraider is supposedly the one shot down on 30 April 1975.
I’ve never seen a complete list of aircraft that have been brought out of Vietnam. Several O-1s, U-17s, A-37Bs have been recovered. Two of the latter were at one time (still?) at La Ferte Alais, France.
As for the Skyraiders, I want one!
Regards,
Jan
The book “Lavochkin’s Piston-Engined Fighters” (Red Star Vol 10) by Yefim Gordon contains the following information on a Russian Lightning;
“Several months before the beginning of the La-11’s flight tests GK NII VVS obtained an example of the Lockheed P-38L-1-LO Lightning twin-engined fighter. Its evaluation, which was completed in April 1947, showed that, despite the Lightning’s high all-up weight (almost twice that of the La-11), its range with drop tanks was inferior to that of the Soviet fighter. Other performance figures, with the exception of the radius of turn and service ceiling, were also lower.”
As for other operators, one P-38 was briefly used by the Yugoslav Air Force between 1945 and 1946. The remains of her should still be preserved in Belgrade.
One interned photo-recce F-5 was test-flown by the Swedish Air Force. It was written-off after a few test flights.
Regards,
Jan
Papa Lima,
Rod Simpson’s “Airlife’s General Aviation” states that the first flight occured on June 12, 1955. Production was initiated in November 1955, with a total of 173 (yes indeed) Cessna 172s being produced that year. I’ve received information on the date from Cessna as well, and they confirm June 12 as being the correct date.
BTW, I’m currently compiling a book on the military Cessna T-41/172s, from Angola to Vietnam, together with US authors Walt Shiel and Mike Little. The book will be published on March 2, 2006 by Slipdown Mountain Publications LLC.
Everything on the ‘172 in military service is of interest!
Regards,
Jan
Many thanks, much appreciated!
fantasma 337 & flex297, could you e-mail me off-board at [email]jwfflying@yahoo.se[/email].
We need to sort out sources and copyright issues for the photos.
Regards,
Jan
I believe that about 50 Hueys, three Chinooks and a O-1 Bird Dog of the VNAF were deep-sixed from the USN vessels. In addition to Maj Ly-Bung’s O-1, about 40 or so Hueys and one Chinook were recovered. I think that the Chinook was operated briefly by a USMC CH-53 unit.
As for the Hueys and O-1s remaining in Vietnam, the VPAF is said to have captured 434 Hueys and 114 Bird Dogs. I’ve seen a photo, published in the WAPJ, showing a long line of derelict Hueys.
Regards,
Jan
The Pakistani AF never used Vampires, the Indian AF did, though.
Jan
Arthur,
The sole VPAF attack using Beagles occured on Oct 9, 1972 against Bouam Long (LS-32) in north-eastern Laos. Not much damage was made, apart from a few bomb craters.
The VPAF side of the attack, with a couple of photos, can be found in “Air War Over North Vietnnam” by Istvan Toperczer.
Regards,
Jan
All three Swedish pilots who flew operational sorties in MFI-9 Minicons are deceased. One MFI-9 was reportedly noted a few years back in a poor state somewhere in Nigeria.
BTW, Count Carl Gustaf von Rosen is one of the great (and enigmatic) characters of Swedish aviation. A short biography may be appropriate.
During the Italian invasion of Abyssinia in 1935-1936, he flew a Heinkel HD 21 and later a Fokker F VII that had been equipped as ambulance aircraft. After the Russian invasion of Finland in 1939, he donated a DC-2 and two Koolhoven FK 52s to the Finnish AF. The DC-2 was rebuilt as an ad hoc bomber by SAAB in Trollhättan with a dorsal gunners position and external bomb racks. Apparently, the DC-2 was considered for a bombing sortie on the Kremlin! During the war, von Rosen flew several sorties in Blenheims as well as the DC-2.
Before the war, he had flown for the KLM, being employed by the Swedish airline ABA when the war began.
After the end of Word War II, von Rosen was offered the job as Commander of the Imperial Ethiopian Air Force. He served in the IEAF until 1956, when he became a pilot for the Swedish charter airline Transair.
After the Biafran conflict broke out, he reorganized the Biafran AF with MFI-9 Minicons, which he thought would be far more suitable than the B-26 Invaders and various jets (including Meteors) that the Biafrans had operated earlier.
Carl Gustaf von Rosen was killed in Ethiopia in 1977, during a relief operation for the Swedish Red Cross.
As for the operational “guerilla tactics” of the MFI-9 Minicons, that concept had been attempted during the early ‘fifties by the US company Fletcher and their FD-25 light COIN aircraft.
Regards,
Jan
Swedish built MFI-9s of the Biafran Air Force. About nine were operated were operated by the Biafran AF during the late ‘sixties. Three Swedish pilots flew the MFI-9 Minicons during the Biafran War, Count Carl Gustaf von Rosen, Martin Lang and Gunnar Haglund.
Regards,
Jan
No 10 is a Wibault 7c.1 Scout, possibly one of the Chilean ones that were built by Vickers.
Jan
Dreaming:
Messerschmitt Me 323 (completely unrealistic, but would presumably turn a few heads… Also, where to put it between airshows would be a slight problem.)
(A few years ago, I read something about a German group aiming at recreating a Dornier Do X. Don’t know what became of it, though.)
Saab J21A
Fiat G55
Westland Whirlwind (the fighter!)
Heinkel He 112
LeO 451
Dornier Do 17Z
DH 103 Hornet
Perhaps realistic:
ASJA Jaktfalk (Swedish mid ‘thirties biplane figher)
Fokker C VE
Breguet 19
Fiat CR 32
I for one would be extremely happy if just ONE of the above ever gets replicated/rebuilt and put back in the air.
Regards,
Jan
Air Entusiast, 1972 or 1973. The aircraft involved was a Czech AF Lisunov Li-2 Cab, s/n 2204 or 2208. From memory, the article was two or three pages long, and contained several photos of the Li-2/Wellington in question.
Regards,
Jan