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  • in reply to: Guess the Ship, it's back #2008595
    Ja Worsley
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    Hawk- hahahaha nice joke mate- but No mate, sorry!

    E2R- Sorry mate, try again 😉

    in reply to: COIN aircraft carrier #2008700
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    The former HMAS Jervis Bay (ARK-45) was able to operate in bad seas up to SS6 which the crew barely noticed.

    The design being of catamaran concept and wave piercing technology has allowed InCat to put forward a range of successful design products to the US Military including the current multi vessel JHSV based on the above 112m vessel.

    JHSV has taken lessons learned from the HSV-2 Swift program on board to allow perfection of what now to become the US military’s core transport fleet. Included in the specs was the ability to operate a helo up to SS5 for launch and SS4 for recovery- this carried over to JHSV.

    InCat’s 112m design above also follows along those same lines for flight ops!

    in reply to: The Groshkov Saga- The Final stretch. #2008753
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    Forgive me for being pessimistic here, but I still think there are going to be problems down the track! India will claim this isn’t working right, that isn’t fitting right and a whole range of things will cause more problems!

    I’ll bet Vikramditya doesn’t even have a work up crew yet, let alone a Commissioning Officer- and I wonder if they have even thought of a Lady sponcer to crack the bottle- hmmmmmm :confused:

    in reply to: COIN aircraft carrier #2008757
    Ja Worsley
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    It certainly pays to go through your attachments- I was looking for something relevant to this thread and couldn’t find it anywhere, after two days of searching, I look through my attachments and bang there it is!

    Anyway back on topic- so you want a small carrier for Co-In duties, small amount of aircraft, minimal fuss, maximum strike capabilities, CALL INCAT

    This is their LHT design (Light Helo Transport)

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=166274&d=1223978869

    but you can use it for said role as well- heck you could even put a ski jump at the bow if you really wanted to.

    In fact InCat has designed a range of small carriers for just about every role imaginable, here is a slightly bigger 112m Carrier already capable of supporting a small contingent of F-35B’s. It is the same design, but my point about the ski jump is evident here!

    http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=166273&d=1223978869

    Perhaps something along these lines may be better for what was originally intended!

    in reply to: Guess the Ship, it's back #2008772
    Ja Worsley
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    WAN my old friend how is the little man these days? Getting big I bet.

    I knew I’d draw you out of the wood work and as always you are right on the money with all three guesses- I thought I’d have you stumped on them, especially changing the colour and the pic around- you are just too good mate!

    1. MEKO 140 of Armarda Republica Aregntina moving up a Chiliean Straight

    2. KRI Diponegoro

    4. BRP Rajah Humabon

    Well there are still two left!

    in reply to: COIN aircraft carrier #2008786
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    I think the point has been lost here, sure older carriers operated with loads of aircraft, but then again if you look at the size and weights of those aircraft, todays planes seem like monsters- you could not operate a modern day plane off any of the WWII era carriers (unless it was a Harrier). The case of the Colossus class in Argentine service (and the Majestic class in various naval services around the world) point to a maximum of only 26 aircraft being operated under standard operating procedures, of that 16-18 were planes- the rest were helos. It’s a question of size over practical space available (space needed to work on engines and air frames as such).

    Chakri Naruebet is a very very sad case indeed, Thailand bought the EAV-8’s to fly off the carrier but to my knowledge, only three ever actually got to fly off her deck and none are serviceable today- which doesn’t really matter because they actually don’t have any pilots for them. The whole ship is basically one gigantic floating palace anyway with the Royal Chambers taking up most of 01 deck. If I was the head of the Thai navy I’d put her in to dock and cut the ski jump off and turn it in to another helo spot!

    Now the question of actually having a land link to spares and mail is actually not that hard- Yes for most the C-2 is way out of the question simply because of it’s weight- she is a very fat lady! But the Brazilians have the right idea- buy some old C-1 Traders (well actually they are buying Trackers and rebuilding them but C-1’s are in Storage there at AMARC). But then again the whole thing basically revolves around how far you intend to take your carrier, Spain, The UK and Italy use helos to send out urgent parts.

    in reply to: Rise of the Sea Gripen #2009135
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    Dis: Mate what chances do you think Thailand has of buying more 39C and some 39N’s? I mean would the Sea Gripen fit aboard their carrier?

    Would be interesting to see RTAF with their planned FULL compliment (remember that the Gripen is replacing their F-5’s, and say 18 in the RTN service.

    Oh and thanks for finally answering my question mate, the interesting thing about Sweden is its strict Neutrality policy who ever they seem to be allying themselves along NATO lines for sale of the Gripen dispite their “A” systems having superior linking in a network.

    in reply to: COIN aircraft carrier #2009176
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    Over- the OV-10 had the capacity to drop 5 troopers in a very light transport role. It flying high could fly over the area of interest and drop Seal Teams for strategic strike value. This was before Helos has Whisper modes on them- we’re talking the days of UH-1 Huey’s here.

    But i agree- the need for a carrier dedicated to Co-In is not feasable, more likely to have a small fleet of aircraft and use them on board a standard carrier- much in the same way they do with C-2 greyhounds.

    in reply to: COIN aircraft carrier #2009178
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    Spudman: IIRC that was only a trial, hence the Dayglo orange on the aircraft, besides the OV-10 didn’t have folding wings thus storage would have been a problem!

    in reply to: Rise of the Sea Gripen #2009180
    Ja Worsley
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    My initial question still has yet to be answered, but in reading the above posts, I have this responce:

    The T-45 required 56% redesign especially to the landing gear and tail area, the speed break was relocated to either side as it would have interfered with the arrester hook. So basically this is a complete new aircraft- I would love to see both the Hawk 100 and 200 series undergo a similar conversion- would make a great Light Strike aircraft in the same category of the Skyhawk!

    SAAB don’t have any experience in Carrier Aircraft but as was pointed out BAE do- BAE are still aboard on the project and do offer the marketing service for the Gripen but only where the Typhoon is not in the same competition, if it is, then SAAB take over offering the Gripen and BAE offer the Typhoon- this was the understanding of the agreement (Basically BAE win no matter what).

    I imagine that BAE would be present on the Sea Gripen project, their long history (by amalgamation of all the old companies), would give hope for the project- despite BAE not having produced a carrier aircraft of this type in 50 years or so- the Sea Harrier doesn’t really count as it was VSTOL and not CTOL as we are talking about.

    The Sea Gripen would make a nice “CHEAP” Medium strike aircraft sort of along the lines of the old Corsair A-7, but being multi-rolled would take on a few jobs just like the Sea Harrier did. Considering the success of the Land version, the Sea version does seem to offer quiet a bit on the market- especially to new comers to the carrier market or those who wish to re-enter it, who knows, Argentina may finally get back to sea, Holland and Canada may too return to a Blue Water force and Japan may also consider this instead of the F-35 (yes I know this is all a dream but my point is that it opens the door of possibilities).

    SAAB are already half way there with the design and development costs wouldn’t be too high, the reason for my comment here is that SAAB would have done a fair bit of research before offering this platform to both India and Brazil, so the question of cost really is a mute point isn’t it!

    Again I ask about trials of such a system (STOBAR) aboard Russian style vessels, Will trials be held on Kuznetsov or will SAAB wait for Vikramditya to enter service, after all, it’s not like SAAB have had long waiting orders before (mention to the SAAF deal there).

    in reply to: US navy fears asymmetric attacks on its assets #2009186
    Ja Worsley
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    Folks,

    Below is something that the US found out about those spy trawlers the Russians had that shadowed our carriers. Also, a little toy that the USN worries about being given to the wrong people (ie the one with the green flag). Drug smugglers already have crude vessels like this. The Iranian version is not crude. Strange, we Americans (the rebels) came up with the idea during our Civil War and now the US Navy has to worry about them again over a 150 years later!!

    Jack E. Hammond

    PS> Do a google on CSS DAVID

    http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b24/hybenamon/NAVAL/WARSHIPS/317040.jpg

    http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b24/hybenamon/NAVAL/WARSHIPS/IRAN/Iranian-attack-craft.jpg

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    Interesting stuff Jack, especially about the CSS David.

    It seems that retro fashion is finally hitting the naval service- That second pic there reminds me of Colonial Navy torpedo boats as shown below. Now I wonder if there is a spot of these type of boats in modern day navies as a whole?

    http://home.vicnet.net.au/~maav/countess.jpg

    http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/ships/ach-ave.jpg

    http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/ships/mosquito.jpg

    http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/ships/TB-191.jpg

    http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/ships/lonsdale-neapean.jpg

    http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/ships/gordon.jpg

    The last vessel HMVS Gordon could easily be seen in modern day service despite being retired almost 100 years ago. She carries 2 torpedos on each beam and a four barreled Nordenfelt machine gun fo’ard. Now if we update this to todays standard, we could have 2 MU-90’s on the sides and a 25mm Bushmaster gyro-stabilised gun up front. a few of these might actually serve well in various nations defence/coast guard services, say Africa or Carribean!

    in reply to: Rise of the Sea Gripen #2009785
    Ja Worsley
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    My question still has yet to be answered!

    in reply to: Rise of the Sea Gripen #2009915
    Ja Worsley
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    Landing gear too small…

    Compare :

    http://www.safran-group.com/IMG/jpg/atterrisseur_Rafale_M.jpg
    Rafale M

    http://www.planet.fi/~mohman/model/f18flg.jpghttp://www.planet.fi/~mohman/model/f18rlg.jpg
    F-18

    @+, Arka

    What are you talking about mate?

    Question if I may!
    Without be sarcastic!

    You Sarcastic- never mate 😛

    These Sea Gripen CGI drawings you show – the first CGI picture is it depicting a catapult launch or a STO?

    It’s actually landing mate, but SAAB are saying that STOBAR is the way they are looking at the project.

    For if it is a STOBAR, the second CGI is a very tall payload/weight for a STO!

    You know what the computer geeks are like mate, they show planes that are armed to the teeth but defy all realities!

    And the fourth CGI picture – is this the aircraft landing after a mission – or has it had to jettison its weapons to allow landing?

    It’s just a pic of it landing mate, accept it for what it is- a sales tool!

    I am a fan of the LWF – the likes of the F-16, F-20 and Gripen.
    But is it worth Saab’s time, money and effort to study, propose and market a carrier variant of its Gripen – for say potential India and Brazil, with carriers that do not exist and may never be built – say 80 aircraft?
    Would it not be more viable for the likes of the Dassault Rafale – already design, built and in carrier service be a more viable choice by India and Brazil (and even Britain and PRC – if they wanted such an aircraft!!).
    After all the French will be more than happy to sell them – with no political or humanitarian strings attached (or if they were used in aggression – unlike Sweden!)

    Regards
    Pioneer

    Is it worth it? Is it worth Dassault to make 34 planes for one customer and not anymore because no one will ever by them? Both Brazil and India have money and they are exploiting their gains- good for them. I don’t see Brazil getting into a fight with anyone soon and SAAB approached both Brazil and India about this idea so I guess the political ideals have been outweighed by economic realities when it comes to military hardware!

    in reply to: Sea Gripen – MERGED #2414281
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    I would expect the most likely platforms for sea trials of Sea Gripen, if built, to be Sao Paulo (catapult launch & arrested launch) and Vikramaditya (STOBAR), i.e. ships operated by potential customers.

    Swerve: Vikramditya won’t be ready before Sea Gripen is and as for Sao Paulo, Sea Gripen isn’t designed for cat launches- the new carriers Brazil are looking at have Ski jumps and may even have a similar system for launching planes to what the Russians use- hence me asking my question.

    in reply to: Sea Gripen – MERGED #2414635
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    my african friend.

    I think its highly unlikely the Russians will buy a Sea Gripen for the Kuznetsov 😉

    as for the Injun Gorkshov mod, they just ordered more MiG-29K. most likely it’ll be MiG-29K until they can get their F-35. maybe N-LCA. thats it.

    Who is African???

    I never asked if the Russians would buy the Sea Gripen, I asked if they would allow the Sea Gripen to be trialled on their carrier!

    As for the Indian deal, I think you might want to keep up with the news abit!

    http://defense-studies.blogspot.com/2009/12/saab-offers-sea-gripen.html

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