It is a great looking model indeed and I hope they do pull this off, I noticed the deck lined with Tejas- thought the naval version was lagging so far behind that they decided to hold off for a bit- hence the talks with SAAB about the Sea Gripen.
I also believe that the Engine config for the IAC program has been set at CODAG, with four Diesel engines (prob MTU’s) in combination with two LM-2500’s driving two shafts and a dual bow thruster, the model doesn’t show those!
Finally- please please tell me who the cutie is that’s trying to hide on the bridge in this shot 😉
OK now finally- getting back on track here. With all the troubles Vikramditya is having, has anyone heard what it happing with Shi Lang (aka the former Varyag). I believe she was supposed to put to sea at the end of last year for trails and to be formerly commissioned as fully working unit of the PLAN
Well if you want to get into theoretical- What about the ATG Javelin then?
Notice the military style codes on the tail!
I subscribe to the ATG Javelin news letters and I have known for some time that a military customer has bought the Mk-20 version- no specifics have been reveled except that the customer is in Europe. Some think it’s the French Navy as they lost their training capabilities back in the early 90’s with the retirement of their Zephyer jets.
The Mk-30 is said to be a full spec military jet trainer while the Mk-40 has the capability to take ordinance.
I don’t like the Garrett engine of the OV-10, mainly because it requires a new line of parts to manufacture and supply. Rather you would want something common to the helicopters or aircraft already in the inventory of the USN or USMC. I’m thinking something based upon T700-GE-401 (approx. 1900hp; UH-60), T58-GE-16 (approx. 1900hp; CH-46), Lycoming T53-L-703 (1800hp; AH-1), Allison T56-A-14/425 (overkill at approx. 4600hp/4800hp; P-3/C-2), T64-GE-413 (approx. 4000hp; CH-53; another overkill), or some variant of the T700/CT7 in the 2500hp range. The engines for the presidential eh101 fit the bill the best imo.
Mate if you want a common engine in a turbo prop power class- then why not settle for the PT6A-68, a very common engine on the market in both civilian and military sectors- it powers the T-6A Texan II and you know how many of those there are. It also powers many other aircraft and I’d rather this engine over an adapted helo engine!
The reason the AH-1 wouldn’t really work is that its supply line isn’t tenable. The engine is too labor intensive anymore and the parts aren’t exactly at the local napa. You’re better off with something already out there, or at least close to something out there. That is why the T700/CT7 option appeals to me. The 900-mile range Enforcer program was right up this alley. If they couldn’t navalize something like that then a layout like the Focke Wolfe 281 or Saab 21 would look pretty fearsome.
On the other hand one could argue for using something more in the Allison T56-A-425 powered and 2200-mile range A-2 Skyshark mold. The Skyshark was the turboshaft-powered A-1 Skyraider descendant. The skyshark was developed specifically for 500-foot deck CVE operations.
Hmmm Skyshark- Nah too ugly!
The FW-281- Interesting but production would be nasty to set up and too many refinements would need to occur before you get a decent working platform!
The SAAB System 21- lovely- first production fighter with a working ejector seat! Now are you after the Prop model (J-21A)
Or the Jet powered J-21R
But I’ll see your collection there and raise you the PZL-230 Skorpion!
I wish I could find the pics of the original Turbo Prop powered version!
Ja Worsley –
Good information. Ja Worsley’s idea of a catamaran would fill the role nicely.
Thanks mate, I had a friend serve on Jarvis Bay in Blue crew, he said it was odd having a ship that had two crews and was always at sea- given the events of the day (East Timor) you can understand why they did that, and now it’s becoming the norm for all ships!
Bring in the OV-10X
I remember this- Boeing launched it about 18 months ago, lets have a quick look at some of the competition while we are at it 😉
OV-10X
AT-6B
But seriously, if you want to go retro, why not bring these back :diablo:
At least they are already carrier capable 🙂
Oh and finally, here is a pic showing what I mentioned before about the paras in the back
Black Cat: I was just going over the attachments above and I noticed that you have listed Vikramditya with a capability of a Marine detachment and docking facilities where as the Vikrant has none.
Forgive me if I am wrong, but the Cavour class does indeed have this capability built into it by the Italians and I would have thought that this alone would have been a big reason for the Indians taking on the design for the basis of IAC1-3, have they left this option out?
For reference- Cavour Class Carrier on Wikipedia
The 134 metre, 2,800 m2 hangar space can double as a vehicle hold capable of holding up to 24 main battle tanks or many more lighter vehicles (50 Dardo IFV, 100+ Iveco LMV), and is fitted aft with access ramps rated to 70 tons, as well as two elevators rated up to 30 tons for aircraft. Cavour can also operate as Landing Platform Helicopter (LPH), accommodating heavy transport helicopters (EH 101 ASH) and ~325 marines.
This is listed on many other sites as well (except for Naval-Technology, which is always behind in updating their info). The pic shows clearly the stern and Starboard ramps allowing transfer of vehicles on to Landing craft.
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