Thanks Matt, Australian’s have always said it was a sad day on July 30 1983 when HMAS Melbourne was towed from our shores. The Labour governement under Prime Minister Bob Hawke had decided that buying another carrier was not in the interest of our land and spent the money one a range of other things including a new Health system we now know as “Medicare”, this has turned into a big joke and a pollitical barganing chip for ellections.
The current government is spending big on defence (something which the Liberal Party is big on), but they too have made blunders (retiring the AAW DDG’s without replacement is the biggest). Now we are set to get two new small carriers (there is talk of a third) see above for details. Many Autralian’s have felt that we have weakened our presence in the area drasticaly with the retirement of our only carrier, when we do get these new carriers it will be two generations lost, many of those who could have helped in the training will be too old to help now so we’ll have to learn how to do it all again from scratch, and make all those mistakes again. At least our only NAS, NAS Nowra (aka HMAS Albatross, named after the first carrier) will have a use again, it’s not the same having only helos on the ramp.
Here are some pics of our carriers through out our history
HMAS Melbourne III, Colossus class, formerly HMS Majestic, which was never completed untill bought by the RAN in 1948 along with her sister HMS Glory which went on to become HMAS Sydney III, Sydney was completed straight away and ships to Australia, Melbourne was sent after completion to Holland to gain an Angled flight deck and a mirror landing system as well as up graded electronics she was supposed to be here in 1950 but didn’t arvive here untill 1956 during which time the RAN leased HMS Vengence as HMAS Vengence (later sold to Brazil as Minas Gearis and undergoing a similar refit as Melbourne).


Aft flight deck of HMAS Melbourne note how wide it is
Melbourne down in the Bight
Next is HMAS Sydney she was decomissioned in 1953 when HMAS Melbourne came to Australia but recomissioned during the Vietnam war as a fast troop transport (aka the Vung Tau Ferry).
Here she is just having been accepted by the RAN and getting ready to depart for Australia.
Here she is as the Vung Tau Ferry with the Army making their pressence felt and again below.
Here is HMAS Vengence which served with the RAN from 13th Novemeber 1952 untill 12th August 1955, during the service of both Sydeny III and Vengence all flight training was done in England and wasn’t taken on in Australia untill 1965.



Finally HMAS Albatross, Australia’s first carrier, she was a sea plane carrier which had Seagull III planes on board, nine could be carried at one time. She was built in Australia during the in between years and served for only nine years in the RAN, after which she was passed to the RN as part payment for the new Light Crusiers. She served during WWII ans a troop ship and ferry and was eventually sold to a Greek Shipping company in 1952, she did suffer a fire on board in 1958 after which details of her have been lost.

Pics of this ship are hard to come by even here in Australia, I’ve been looking for info for years on what happened to it when the greeks had her, there is a rhoumor that she is still afloat somewhere in the Med.
Blackcat: Mate that first shot is wonderful, gee she’s looking tired now, I heard that they were going to retire her befor Gorshkov comes on line, any truth? And when they do retire her, will she be kept as a museum (which I very much hope so), and where.
Bring_It_on: Mate
USS enterprise cv-6
Try again, a) the link don’t work and b) USS Enterprise is CVN-65 which was the first of the Nuclear Carriers. CV-6 was A Yorktown Class Carrier used during WWII. She was laid down on 12th May 1938 and decommissioned on 17th Feb 1947 She was then reactivated for use in Korea which she carried the designation CVA-6 (Attack)on the 1st Oct 1952 later on 8th Aug 1953 she changed her designation again to CVS (Anti Submarine) and was finally sold for scrap on 1st July 1958.
Ok here they are again.
Bugger, Well I have them so I’ll post them again
[I]Originally posted by Camaro[/I]
i could get more if you guys want.
Sure I’m interested mate, sure hate to come afoul o’her!
Originally posted by Google
Kind of reminds me of the old USS Albany with the really tall smoke stacks, and mix of WWII and modern missiles.
Mate what about the FRAM’s (Gearings and Carpenters and Sumners) and of course the big Iowas?
Check out a movie called “By Dawn’s Early Light” or read Kilo Class by Patrick Robinson. The moral effect on the nation would be like that of The Twin Towers inccident!
Like I said Hyper, I got my DD’s mixed up, i’m sorry ok
Wow I found some good photos after I got the designation right, thanks guys!






Given that last pic, What would be the biggest Helo she can take? The Seaking of could you get an MH-53 on it?
Glenn your pic didn’t work mate 🙁
Actually what threw me off was the pennent number in the pic (both the missus and I thought it CA514 or LA514) couple that the fact that I found this pic in a Brazilian website talking about Helicopter Embarcations and they were refering to an Argentinian ship, you can see how I got a bit lost!
Actually I had never heard of this ship, so it’s like the old Great Lakes Steamer Carriers, same role basically?
Here’s an old scratchy pic of Hercules back when she was new, from Hazegrey

If you look carefully down the sides you can see two of the container launchers for the SSM’s
Jonesy: Mate I did a search but I couldn’t find a decent pic, but I did how ever see what you were talking about, all batch one ships had this funnel system.
Isn´t Dolphin class a close relative to the 214/212 ??
Not really, these boats are smaller and are a joint effort between Germany and Norway paid for by Americans for use in Israel.
Thanks Glenn, I found something now, this is a pic of it just a few years ago, note the size of the hangar which holds a Seaking.

Also of note is the different funnel tip, this seems to have the German style funnel tip that was used on the Lutjens class DDG’s
Sorry, getting my DD’s mixed up