Well the Dash 7 won’t get looked at because there is no support for it down here, but te Dash 8Q might because they have a whole heap of them in service with QANTASLINK, one even flies to Melbourne from my local airport.
As for the others, yeah right. We’ve got as much chance of those entering service as the Su-34 does of replacing the F-111’s. Sure they are very capable planes and all that, but with the current government we don’t have a hope in hell.
Adding to this old story, I now read that the RSN is to retire two of the A-14’s when these new A-17’s come over in 2010, wonder what they will call these new vessels.
Nep: mate that second pic I posted here a while ago if you do a search you’ll see that we did a chat about it and in the background you can see the two Malay vessels being prepaired for delivery.
Those Sigma’s are nice, interesting that I haven’t seen them yet, though I did get out of the navy back in 98 🙁
Hehehehehe it’s all good guys, Air transport down here does need a serious look at , sadly not by us, but by the powers that be, we’ve made a start with the C-17’s now we need to get the rest looked at.
I have some more interesting news, But I will start a thread based on Index’s sugestion, thanks mate 😉
Hmmmm Dubya, you might be on to something there, I’ll put the proposal in for you. See despite the change of governments, people have to realise that the governments only act on what they are told by those in the service, thus the ADF cheifs are the ones to blame and thus they are the ones who need shooting. We done Dubya.
Mirage III history and development This is a good reference to the Mirage and all it’s varients, note the quoted text below:
One was fitted with a Rolls-Royce Avon 67 engine with thrust of 71.1 kN (16,000 lbf) as a test model for Australian evaluation, with the name “Mirage IIIO”. This variant flew in February 1961, but the Avon powerplant was not adopted.
And here is another reference on another site:
The Mirage IIIE was also built under license in Australia and Switzerland. While the Avon-powered Mirage IIIO built for the Australians didn’t work out, the Australians did become interested in producing their own Mirage IIIEs, retaining the designation Mirage IIIO, sometimes informally rendered as the “III-Oz”. The production Mirage IIIO retained the SNECMA Atar engine, the major difference between the IIIE and the IIIO being avionics fit.
The Australians actually produced two variants: the Mirage IIIO(F), which was optimized as an interceptor, and the Mirage IIIO(A), which was optimized for the attack role. Dassault produced the first two sample IIIO(F) aircraft, with the first flying in March 1963. The Australian Government Aircraft Factory and Commonwealth Aircraft went on to complete 48 more IIIO(F) fighters and 50 IIIO(A) strike aircraft.
All the surviving Mirage IIIO(F) aircraft were converted to IIIO(A) standard between 1967 and 1979. The Mirage was finally withdrawn from Australian service in 1988, and 50 surviving examples were sold to Pakistan in 1990.
While I was looking up the Avon 67 specs I came across something interesting, it seems the 67 was once considered for the Swedish Air Force J-35 fleet but dropped because it ment reworking the intakes in a similar fashion as to what the Nimrod fleet are going through today and like the Mighty Rods, the new intakes would have looked really ugly on the Drakens, you know the Sweds, they have to look their best 😉
Thanks guys.
Garry: mate does Russia have any A-40’s in service? I know they had some on order but I haven’t heard what happened there. With the CL-415 sales slowly drawing down (apart from the 15 ordered by Securite Civile) the A-40 does offer so much more for it’s money (roughly the same price as the CL-415 IIRC), it has twice the speed twice the range and almost three times the payload.
Pale: mate I remember back in the early to mid 90’s the RAAF were interested in buying 12 V-22’s as a replacement for the DHC-4’s, with the delays in the US I guess this plan got left behind.
Hahahahahaha well ok mate, Still I’ll swap the Hornet for anything!!!
The Aussie invention called Metal Storm has been very active lately, I have done a story on it on my site but hang on and I’ll grab the details for you, they are working on a CIWS system based on the Redback Turret
Here we are:
Not stopping there, Metal storm and ST Kinetics have released their first turret called the Redback. Basically it is a 40mm ST Automatic grenade launcher on top of a four barreled 40mm MS system coupled with an Electro Optical Systems turret. EOS having joined MS and ST only one year ago.
The Redback turret is small enough to be fitted to the Australian Army’s ASLAV’s and similar APC’s used by other countried (Strykers in America, NZSLAV’s in New Zealand). this system will give a similar protection to these vechiules as those in the Israeli army which are fitted with the Trophey system.
Here is another version of a Redback turret that can be mounted on top of a standard truck and offers troop support and even a good degree of Projectile defence.
More details about the Redback turret system including a couple of pics of it fitted to an Australian Army Truck.
Don’t know about the Skyhawks mate, but the SuE were actually mentioned in the article. What other plane is around these days that is small enough to operate off a ship that size and can be sold to Argentina? Certainly not the Harrier or any version of it! And are the Argentine Skyhawks still fit for Sea duties? IIRC they are starting to wear out, though the M’s might be ok but the American’s sure did abuse those when they were in service.
Perhaps They might join up with India and buy some Naval Tejas’ which seem to be the only new plane soon to be on the market (if India can pull it’s finger out), that is of the right size, the rest are just too big.
What is the projected Air Compliment for this vessel? Judging by it’s size, it would only have a couple of Blackhawks on it but has about five spots on deck for helo movements.
Even still, With these vessels and the Japanese Oosumi class (not to mention their new DDH’s), China will be watching with curious eyes as to the movements and capabilities of these vessels. The Region is heating up for a carrier war 😉
The Belgrano you have pictured above is interesting, I remember reading about a year or two ago that the AdA were looking for a new carrier in the 20-25k range. They were very specific in detail abot what was required as well.
I really should dig that article out and read it all over again, it was really interesting but what beats me is where they think they’ll get the money from.
You tease 😛