Harzit, SA? Mate do you know Dr Rudi?
I can’t wait to see the entire fleet active
Street Fighter up the top there is actually the former RAN vessel HMAS Jervis Bay ARK-45



We also had two Bay class Inshore Mine Hunters as mentioned above:
HMAS Rushcutter (MHI-80)
HMAS Shoalwater (MHI-81)
These ships differed slightly in their design and their mission packages were stored in containers on the upper aft deck, at the time (early 80’s) they used the latest in mine hunting remote robotics, sadly this proved unreliable and with the ships being top heavy they weren’t good in rough swells. They have now both been retired and sold off to private industry (both becoming passenger ferries).
I was reading an old book “Australia’s Armed Forces of the Eighties” and in it it has a spiel about these vessels including the reserved names and numbers should the project have proven a positive one, they were going to be; Westernport MHI-03, Discovery MHI-04, Esperance MHI-05 and Melville MHI-06
Really? WOW I guess my sources should update their info more often, still I stand corrected!
The Thai carrier hasn’t put to sea in a long time and has only once had the Harriers aboard, and that was on the delivery voyage. We passed it in the Indian Ocean on it’s way home and I remember the skipper asking what the hell the Spanish were doing here and why they had shrunk their carrier. Then we saw the Harriers and thought something was up because they weren’t in typical Spanish markings. After putting into Mombassa did we learn they i was the Thai carrier and we were one of the few to actually see the harriers flying.
PII: mate, no, they don’t have them all, in fact they barely have anything other than the 23mm gun and rocket pods. As Dan said, there are only two, but the TNI-AL want more, they are seeking another 14 but funds are short atm what with rebuilding efforst in Ache and Nias and the foregin money being carefully watched as to where it goes.
Well that is the same gripe I’ve heard, the engines are very lacking but yes I have heard about the role rates and how good they are. What if the RoCAF bought EJ-200’s or even redundant RB-199’s? Would that help? I don’t know if the EJ-200’s would be sold to them, but there are a number of RB-199’s about to hit the market.
What about the Swiss Pirranah project, that would have been a great little plane
What I would like to know is, with the experience gained from the Ching-Kuo, will AIDC be designing and building the next plane that will replace it and if so will the RoCAF accept it?
From all that I have read, the plane has basically been a flop in service but was a good excercise for the industry who had never done this before.
Well if this is true, then it would seem that the Raf has finally found a customer outside its home base. What I’d like to know is where the money is coming from, if they had none before, what makes then think they have some now?
Spectral: mate I heard the Spanish went for HOT3’s
As for the tigers agillity: I will never forget seeing it inverted over the opera house, I don’t know of many that can do that, and I know the Hind can’t. I know that we are already working on upgrades to the fleet and that one od these is to include an agile beam radar. There is already a competition going to source one and it is said that these will be fitted to the ARH’s after 2010. The radar sought is to be of millimeter wave length and be capable of finding targets in adverse weather conditions and at night.
Does the Hind have anything like this capability? Can the Hind do NOE flying since it is such a big machine? As has been pointed out in another thread recently, The Mi-24/35 series can also provide a small troop lift capability, no other machine like this can (sure the Mi-28 can take three people but that’s nothing. I guess you could say the the Hind in all it’s forms, is in a class of it’s own.
In any case I susspect that the Government here aren’t being fully honest with the intentions of these new LHD’s (but then again what government has ever been honest about anything? In the fullness of time we will see what they will do with the vessels
Pred: You raise and interesting prospect with Kanimbla, and Manoora I suppose, hmmm I shall think about this!
I have heard of others especially on Asian flights were english isn’t a strong point, but I can’t post those as they are a bit too rude, mind you the cabin crew were mobbed after and didn’t understand that what they had offered was naughty.
Australia hasn’t made any military aircraft in a long time mate, the last military plane it made was the N-22 and N-24 Nomads/ Searchmasters! All planes since then have been kits supplied from over seas companies.