The harrier burns fuel at a huge rate in hover flight and even more in taking off in vertical mode, those tanks would be half empty buy the machine leaving nothing for the helo’s. I prefer the other idea that was dropped some time ago, with the pods carrying people/ stores behind the lines. I wonder if it really was dropped or if it was publically dropped!
yeah it works, oddly enough it came up rather quickly for me and I’m on dial up, thanks for the site mate
Ja, the UAV thing is the great unknown.
Did I miss something?
Anyway now that I have read this article I feel that it should be known that the RAAF is looking at an armed version of the Global Hawk for our use. From what I can understand, we are looking at two semi recessed weapons under the wing roots, but that’s all I know.
Cliff: mate I wasn’t getting at you at all (sorry if it sounded as such), I just wanted to keep the perspective going in the right direction.
The Prop issue was a huge thing that was covered up, the Swedes didn’t want the US having the info because it is actually Russian based technology.
Cliff: Mate to bust your bubble a little (and appoligies before hand), but tyhey also designed the Type 417 aka Collins Class. Australia had planned on fitting the Sterling AIP system to the subs but the budget for that and the Vertical launch tubes was blown out by the problems incurred in the design.
Kockums has recently been in court over the fiasco and have been force to pay back a huge sum for design flaws and company oversights.
Maybe Sweden will opt for the U212 or U214 (or a derivative of those designs).
Doubtful, Kockums is still a very potent player in the Submarine industry and they have a new design (A-21 I think it is- but don’t quote me on that, I’ve also heard mention of Project 2115). Either way Swedens self reliability to produce it’s own weapons will always remain embeded in their culture even if they suppliment it with other Machines from outside their borders.
for all those wondering, I found out who it was that sent me the text message! It was a chap in Scotland who is doing a model of HMS Gnat 😉
on the website there is a movie of one of the boats actually showing some battle damage and also showing it on the move, wow they rode low in the water
Thanks Moggy. I was amazed at getting the text message on my phone, I still don’t know who sent it to me…“Come ye forth noble sir to claim thy prize”!
I did a bit of checking around as well on the Fly Class mentioned above, they were smaller and none the less more interesting.
I don’t know about that Scoot but the USN, JMSDF and the RAN are all partners in the Son-of- Starwars program designed to provide an ABM shield over their territories, and as such the SM-3 is the weapon of choice for it.
Scoot: mate can I also remind you that our AWD’s are also on the list to get the SM-3’s with their ABM capabilities.
Axctually I think you are looking at the ORP Orzel the Polish Kilo, she was scheduled to go out on NATO training excercises this month.
Not likely, ADI / Thales / what are we called this week? have so badly stuffed the FFG upgrade that the other ships may never be modified.
Basically the weight of the VLS system up forward and other mods made the ships bow heavy. Counterweights had to be fitted aft, which lowered the designs freeboard limits and used up the last of the designs growth alowance (and then some), and has resulted in the hull “hogging”.
That is the bow and stern are sagging down in the swells and causing stress fractures in the centre section of the ship, which became frighteningly apparent during the sea trials which took place after the mods.
The ship is back at Garden Island in Sydney while the architects try and work out where to try and fit strengthening braces along the hull, trying to counteract the hogging, and coincidentally making the ships even more overweight.
The crew has been told they are going nowhere till sometime in 2006…
Dear oh dear
I did hear aboput this just recently, very interesting and very sad, as to the other proposed changes, here are my thoughts:
Yes replace the Mk 13 with a 5″ the same as what is used on the Anzacs, take the 3″ off and place an octuple launcher for ESSM’s there. Move the ships boats from their positions on the sides and line the sides with Harpoon launchers as in the same style of the Meko 360’s (you could have 16 harpoons each side and not increase the weight much). Finally move the Mk 10 torp launchers into the free spaces below theflight deck, as in the La fayette class.
As for the F-100’s, I haven’t heard anything bad reguarding their weight concerns except in reports from G&C trying to discredit them in order for us to buy their products (sadly it worked). But if it was of some concern, why are we keeping the design on hold? Could we possibily be getting this design later one as a replacement for the FFG’s?
Uni: mate you are saying the same things I have been saying for a while, though I think that Sydney and will go through an upgrade to keep her in the fleet just a little longer same with Darwin
Ok guys, Red Knight on my board has more pics and some first hand info on the Chinese carrier- I wasn’t in dreamland, china is making Varyag read for sea
More proof on my board, please feel free to joinm up and discuss the situation.