Thought I’d do a comparison of various events and ticket prices, these are not to everyone’s tastes, however if you think that a visit to Legends can last from 8 in the morning to 6 or 7 in the evening, and that includes the IWM Collections as well as the hangars etc, and then compare to these various locations and think of what you would get for a comparable price !!!!
Longleat Safari £19 Passport Ticket or £41 in total for individual attractions;
London Eye £13 Standard or £25 fast a time;
London Zoo £13.50;
Flying Legends £30.00 or £34 with flight line walk;
La Ferte Alais Airshow €25.00 (£17.25)
RIAT on the Day £36.00
Madonna in concert in Cardiff internet price of £112; or
Man Utd v FC Porto in Amsterdam £72.00 for a behind the goal seat.
The last ‘horses mouth’ information I had was that their share of the income from Legends, with all charges including the flightline walk and the corporte marquees generates sufficient profit for TFC to cover just a proportion (not their entire) insurance bill for the fleet for a year. (ie. not rent, wages, light, heat, materials, etc etc etc)Moggy
I’ve heard that many of the Companies look to turn over enough revenue to pay just their insurance bill, which as Moggy has stated have increased significantly especially since September 11 and I guess again since 7 July last year, which the cynic in me thinks is just the insurance industry using these as an excuse to up their income and dividends.
Also, those of us who drive know that fuel costs have gone up significantly over the past twelve to eighteen months. Couple that to rents for hangar space, electricity, maintenance costs etc, which don’t come cheap and have a tendency to go up, I think £30 is a small price to pay for the privilege of seeing these fabulous aircraft in the air, compared to operating and owning one.
To me the Warbird world is akin to a football match, which is 22 men kicking a bag of wind around a field, refereed by 40,000 people. Owning and operating a Warbird Company is one or two people being told how they should organise their airshows and operate their aircraft by 40,000 non-executive directors.
It’s the same tune every year after Legends and has been for as long as I care to remember, it’s too expensive, too many wind breaks, prats with ladders, not enough toilets, paying to walk the flightline and expensive food. Number one in the Aviation anoraks hit parade.
I feel a letter coming on to Mr Grey and the people at TFC thanking them for a great weekend, and suggesting that they double the price of the ticket.
(1) It would only allow those of us who can afford to go to attend;
(2) It would stop the people who moan about the cost from going;
(3) It would reduce the number of people turning up with windbreaks and ladders because they won’t want to pay the price; and
(4) It will be easier to get around because the size of the crowds will be smaller; and
(5) Traffic congestion will be significantly reduced, because of all of the reasons above.
If the above reduces the numbers attending by half, there would be no effect on revenue. In fact it could reduce infrastructure costs in the long run, by reducing the need for extra bogs and catering facilities each year. Yes some of the stall holders may suffer, but lets face it did anyone want to buy AA membership or perfume over the weekend ????
5. Flying Legends has the best gathering of veterans (people, not aeroplanes) you can still find, and I cannot understand why they do not get the mention they deserve in these threads.
I think I did 😉
Oh and to meet Jimmy Stewart again, more than priceless.
Such a shame you can’t join me.
Only joking. 😀
A shame no !!! Joy more like.
Only joking 😀
A nice insight into what goes on behind the scenes, prior to an event like Legends, thank you.
However I have to ask, wouldn’t some of those highly trained engineering type people be better off helping to keep the crowd line clear of wind-breaks, ladders and hi viz jackets. Admittedly the number of participating aircraft would be significantly reduced, but at least everyone would have an uncluttered view. 😉
Well the owner of one the Bristol Fighters and the Hucks starter…for starters. 🙂
Mark
And it appears the owners wife as well.
Oh, is that why he thinks he’s so important then?
Perhaps he should think before making such ridiculous comments about the status of the paying public at a major airshow?
AH Mr Pot, and I think you should do the same before accusing someone of not having a genuine love/interest in the subject.
The Snapper that I know, is important, and rightfully so.
MERELY PAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you mad??????????
Without people paying there would be no show. That makes us (the punters) far far far more important than ANYBODY else with a camera, cos without us going every year and forking out cash it wouldn’t happen.
Besides, isn’t there a ‘press day’ for you people? Why don’t you just go to that instead and stop spoiling it for people who have a genuine love/interest in the subject.
Willow
I think you should be eating your words. Snapper has more than a genuine interest in the aircraft flying today, after all they are just pieces of metal. Snapper has gone much further to remember the guys who flew these aircraft for real and is published on the subject, are you ?????
£400 Boat fare to and from the UK
£105 Petrol (I know I should have bought the diesel)
£227 Hotels
£60 2 x Legends Tickets
£90 2 x Festival of Speed Tickets
£150 food & Drink (Including £15 for two burgers and two bottles of water at Goodwood)
To meet with like minded people to banter, joke and generally shoot the breeze, Priceless.
Roll on the next time its worth every penny.
Oh and to meet Jimmy Stewart again, more than priceless.
Another great item added today
1:48 kit of P38 Glacier Girl the only P38 likely to be flying at DX this weekend, unless this is the secret everyone is talking about.
I will be without email or interweb access as from tonight. If anyone who’s not going to be around on Saturday evening would like tickets can they get a message to me via Snapper or Robbo, and I will put tickets and prizes to one side pending payment received.
See you tomorrow or Saturday.
Some more good items have been added today :-
An autographed copy of his book, “Encounter with Tiber” signed by Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin.
A “Rare Bear” team cap from the Reno Air Races direct from the Unlimited Gold Campion, John Penney.
A silver commemorative coin for the 2005 Reno Air Races, given only to the race pilots.
A “Southern Cross” blue team cap from the Reno air races. These caps were made special for the races, and have “Race 71” on the side.
A “Southern Cross” team t-shirt from the Reno Air Races. these were only for team members, and were made in blue to keep them from showing dirt and oil stains. size XL.
Yes i will be going now. Espesialy after i got a possible tip off for the suprise. Im not going to say any more on that though.
Oh the suspenders are killing me.
Oops sorry wrong forum 😉
Added to the list today :-
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang DvD
A couple more items to add to the list thanks to SConnor
Legends 2005 DVD’s
and Shuttleworth DVD
: and a fighter canopy !
Which like the 109, tilted sideways !!!