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  • in reply to: BA cabin crew vote for strike. #570801
    OneLeft
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    2 of the 4 main areas that have caused this action were agreed by that self same union that now wants to change them (new crew rates and absence management policy)

    New crew rates were enforced by the company. That was the whole reason for the 1997 strike.
    The Absence management policy was agreed with the inclusion of an appendix applying specifically to cabin crew which the company have ignored from day 1, and the head of IFS admitted no knowledge of 6 months after taking up his position.

    surely having agreed to terms and conditions you cannot go back on them otherwsie it makes the whole thing a farce?

    Exactly our arguement where the company is concerned as it tries to dilute out terms and conditions.

    Anyway they said that BA crew start on £22k

    number of days worked each year…. BA 150 shift days/year, easyjet 220

    Don’t believe everything you see in the media. BA starting salary is just over £9,000 (more than FR, less than EZY). I’m only just on more than the £22k quoted after nearly 14 years. I have 10 days off a month (9 in Feb as short month) and have 30 days leave a year, that leaves 216 duty days per year (comparable to EZY).

    Its possible to spin all this information to suit a message you wish to make. BA are definitely ahead in the propaganda war

    It is, they do and they are.

    1L.

    in reply to: BA 767s #574431
    OneLeft
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    Don’t quote me but I think I read at work that the longhaul 767’s all had AVOD fitted now. I am on leave at the moment but I’ll see if I can confirm that.

    1L.

    in reply to: BA cabin crew vote for strike. #575853
    OneLeft
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    Have I not stated throughout my posts that I (and my colleagues) fully accept change in the industry and the company, both past and future? Cabin crew, and I believe all other BA staff, accept the need for change.

    BA has however under WW gone from a company that changed through necessity, reasoned discussion and agreement, to one that wants to change by force and aggression, and mostly to cover the cost of recruiting more managers and director bonuses, not to invest in you the passenger (have you seen what we now laughingly call full-service on shorthaul flights?). It is, as I have said previously, that fundemental change in attitude that is at the root of this dispute.

    Let me repeat NO-ONE thinks that a strike is a good idea and NO-ONE wants to see this get that far. But when the company refused to talk a strong message had to be given. I believe it was, and the next day the company sat down to talk.

    1L.

    in reply to: BA cabin crew vote for strike. #575857
    OneLeft
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    rdc1000, I’m not sure where your figures are from but if they are right I stand corrected. I was merely quoting the Head of Inflight Service, the department I work for. They still don’t exactly make depressing reading.

    “Other departments in BA have gone through and taken on board what cabin crew are not prepared to

    EVERY department has had to do it’s bit. IFS has delivered a greater saving per head than any other department in the company since 2003.

    I think most of them don’t even know what they voted to strike about…………….

    What a rediculous and insulting statement that is.

    1L.

    in reply to: The (suggested) end of all domestic uk flights #575903
    OneLeft
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    I had a similar experience when I thought I’d use the train for a change travelling London to Glasgow in December.

    Train £380 return, BA £45 return.

    I flew.

    1L.

    in reply to: New Air India colour scheme! #576396
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    Just like their current scheme, it’s awful.

    Agreed.

    The last time they tried to change their livery public opinion was so bad they changed it back. Wonder what will happen this time.

    1L.

    in reply to: BA cabin crew vote for strike. #576613
    OneLeft
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    Firstly let me say that NO-ONE among BA cabin crew WANTS to go on strike.

    We are all very aware of the impact that industrial action would have on our customers, the company and potentially ourselves in the longer term. The delight (mentioned previously) at the result of the ballot was not delight at the potential for strike action, but at the strength of the message we are able to give Willie Walsh and his team, a point that Kevin has picked up on.

    As The unions are having talks Tuesday 16-01-07,I believe that this is a shot across the bows Of WW, to let him know exactly the how the workforce ( including engineering, ground , and pilots ) feel
    The Staff have endured a lot in the past few years , to bring BA back into Profit, but have see little in the way of gratitude from the Management, and the latest round of ideas from management have been the straw that might have broken the camels back

    The staff know that a strike will end BA, but they are fed up with WW and his predecessors who have not listen to the staff at the front end.

    Skymonster of course makes a very good point about communication, and its need to be two sided. You may not be aware that because BA did not like the 12 points that our union wished to discuss all future meetings were cancelled, the reps had their ID’s withdrawn, their office closed and were banned from all BA buildings. The ID’s were later reinstated so that they could continue with flying duties only. BA then issued statements to the press that T&G/BASSA were refusing to talk.

    On the subject of pay and conditions, I just want to address the belief that BA cabin crew all earn the equivalent of a small lottery win. You may not be aware that nearly 75% of my colleagues are on what we refer to as ‘new’ contracts which were introduced in 1997. On these contracts the starting salary is a little over £9000 and top pay scale is a little under £15000. This may sound a lot to some of you, but it is only comparable with most of the charter and lo-co airlines. Since BA’s privatisation cabin crew have NEVER asked for a pay rise.

    With regard to the ‘old’ contract, when this was offered it’s pay scales were the industry standard, and happily provided by BA. I realise that the industry has changed greatly since then, but I don’t think it is too unreasonable for anyone to want to maintain their standard of living. The changes BA are currently seeking would effectively amount to a reduction in pay and therefore to that standard of living. Most people would, I think, happily accept a pay-cut to help BA if it were a company in crisis, but as the most profitable airline in the world for the last five years clearly it is not, and this is largely due to the changes we have accepted in the past.

    We ALL accept that ongoing change is always going to be a necessity within the airline, but not change for the sake of it, and certainly not forced upon us by an aggressive and bullying management. It is that management style is the bottom line with all 12 of the points raised by T&G/BASSA. WW seems to think he can run BA in the style of a latter day Michael O’Leary. I’m afraid his staff beg to differ!

    Now that I have bored you all senseless, just one last point. Obviously, there will be people within the company who disagree with others, as quoted from pprune. A ballot result of 96% is unprecidented in union history, the BBCs Newsnight programme stated that high 50 to low 60 percentages is the norm. I personally don’t think that many people can all be wrong.

    1L.

    PS:

    Good luck 1L

    Thanks.

    in reply to: Loganair Question…. #577391
    OneLeft
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    According to Jethro 8 are in BA colours, 4 in plain White and 1 in basic Moldavian colours.

    as they maybe looking to replace some of the Saab’s with other turboprops ( likely DHC8)

    I believe BA Connect/FlyBe will have some looking for homes soon. Even come complete with BA colours.

    1L.

    in reply to: Calling BA trivia fans… #577398
    OneLeft
    Participant

    I would say you are correct in theory, but don’t forget that none of the current fleet of 757’s ever wore the red tail livery as they are all too new.

    I think I am right in saying (and I’m happy to be corrected) that G-BPEC is the oldest 757 in the fleet now and is 1990 vintage.

    1L.

    in reply to: L1011 Lifts #581192
    OneLeft
    Participant

    Actually the picture is the mid cabin service center on the main cabin floor, not in the galley.

    I stand corrected.

    1L.

    in reply to: L1011 Lifts #581631
    OneLeft
    Participant

    The galleys were on the lower deck, ie: below the cabin floor, so the elevators were used to send the trolleys between the galley and the cabin.

    Just to clarify that photograph isn’t ‘inside’ the elevators but taken from the galley looking at the elevator doors.

    1L.

    in reply to: 5U-BAG – Did anyone else get this 1 #519470
    OneLeft
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    Interesting that door 2L seems to be bigger than is usual on a -200 and also has its exterior handle blanked off. Any guesses why?

    In other pictures door 2R looks to be standard.

    1L.

    in reply to: Aircraft Overnight Parking Question #583603
    OneLeft
    Participant

    This happens during bad weather at NCL too. It’s so that the aircraft is parked nose into wind.

    1L.

    in reply to: Adam Air jet missing (Boeing 734) #583775
    OneLeft
    Participant

    Not a good start to the year indeed. It seems that safety standards in that part of the world are not good.

    It feels strange to think of the amount of flying I have done on this aircraft during my time with DA and BA. Somehow makes it much more real.

    Very sad, as of course are all such events.

    1L.

    in reply to: HAND LUGGAGE – Whats the situation… #584241
    OneLeft
    Participant

    The DfT website has details of the latest restrictions. http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_transsec/documents/page/dft_transsec_613514.hcsp
    Stick to this and you won’t go wrong.

    1L.

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