Lets try parking at FL350 shall we?
Not quite that high, but I thought the Biggin hold was for parking inflight.
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David, everything you have said reflects business decisions made by BA regarding how it operates from MAN whilst trying to make the operation profitable as Wozza quite rightly points out. Your points about the LH operation are spot on, and mirror the way BA bring people from German regional airports to transfer at LHR when they can’t fly direct.
I said at the start I didn’t want to be drawn into the BA MAN thing all over again, yet somehow I have been.
Lance, I presume your comment is aimed at me. I have tried to state facts without emotion rather than opinion in this thread. My ‘personalising’ was in objecting to the tone and style of a statement which I felt was rather attacking. I make no apologies for that.
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David, as I said to bmi-star, I think you too are over-personlising what are business issues.
for MAN to assume
As I said before about hoping, no business ‘assumes’.
squeezing all their partner airlines
You have proof of this do you? I would expect that if this has happened it’s because the partners see the business sense in such a move.
then wet themselves
BA deals with business issues including competition on a daily basis. It doesn’t ‘wet’ itself!
included outrageous lies
More likely statements based on the facts as they were at that point in time.
basing of a 777 at MAN to operate 3 weekly MAN-ISB non-stop
Again based on the facts as they were at the time, and certainly prior to big changes in the Pakistan market that resulted in the route not only being suspended for some considerable time, but also being weakened for BA to the benefit of PIA who were able to keep operating.
Do YOU OneLeft recollect
No I don’t. But I’m sure if BA ever sees a business case strong enough to do so, they will. One other point, I’m not sure I like your use of bold capitals to shove your finger in my face!
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Ignore the crappos in Jersey and just visit the donkeys in Guernsey
And there I was trying to be diplomatic!
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OneLeft I’ve always wanted to visit the Channel Islands (especially Jersey), would you recommend them?Flex
Sorry Flex, just noticed your question.
I fell in love with Guernsey (and the other islands in the Bailiwick; Alderney, Sark and Herm) when I used to visit Wys when he was working down there, and have been going back ever since. It is very beautiful, very quiet and perhaps just a little backward. If you want lively forget it, but if you want to chill, eat good food and see some interesting aviation then it’s perfect. Jersey I don’t really know, I just pass through sometimes on my way to and from Guernsey.
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Wow, a relatively full looking Trislander as well! My two flights on this incredible little aeroplane are still, after well over 100 commercial flights over three years, my most favourite ever! Really must go back to the Channel Islands, as after two visits I have still never set foot on Jersey…
14 out of 15 seats taken, and this was actually an extra flight Mark as the Short 360 operating the 1610 flight was so oversold. Interestingly the Blue Islands 1600 flight left with just 8 people onboard. It seems the islanders are still loyal to Aurigny despite what Blue Islands would have you believe.
I agree with you Mark, there is nothing like being Tri’d, I think I’ve done about 20 sectors on them including 2 with Wys and Mrs Wys’s cat on my lap. Just hearing those distinctive engines is enough to make me smile.
To those of you who have never flown on a Trislander, you REALLY need to do it at least once. If you like to fly, landing on a Trislander at Alderney on a windy day is the most fun you’ll ever have whilst fully clothed.
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I took these pictures on the way from GCI to JER earlier today.
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I saw ZAPX at LGW today. Looks great, much better than in that photograph.
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I’ve seen it twice today at 2 different airports. You certainly wouldn’t lose it on a dark night! What do I think of it? LGKR says it for me.
yuk!
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You really are making personal what are ultimately business decisions. I don’t want to get into the “London Airways doesn’t like MAN any more” debate that we have every few months, however…
That was the hope anyway
Terminals are not built in ‘the hope’.
BA should not allowed to call it its “own” terminal
BA doesn’t. If you are referring to the fact that it used to be called T1BA that was the airports doing and was dropped long ago at BA’s request as it implied that the terminal itself was the responsibility of the airline.
bmi and baby have move over, to fill it up
Moving airlines between terminals to even up capacity is quite normal, and to ‘chuck BA out’ would leave T3 under capacity and T1 over capacity again.
I can recall my flights in the 735’s with C class fully booked
As we often discuss on here full doesn’t automatically mean profitable. How many on your flights were upgrades?
I think they should remove the BA logo
Airline logos appear all over airport buildings as information or advertising. In this case BA are advertising that T3 is the terminal they operate from. I’m sure if the other airlines at T3 paid to rent the wall space as BA do, they could have their logo added.
its not a BA nor One World exclusive terminal by now
I don’t think it ever was. BA certainly never claimed more than T3 being the home of all BA flights.
i don’t see the “suspended” GeeBee routes returning
Perhaps not. But if they don’t you can be certain it’s because they didn’t perform well enough this year.
I will concede that in recent years there have been many changes for BA at MAN (as there have been throughout the airline), but they still operate an average of 50 flights a day from MAN, not including those operated by GB. That’s not a small operation by anyones standards.
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Time to chuck BA out of T3!
Why?
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The aircraft that took them had the Pride of the Nation written on the side not Three Lions……… but it was definitely a G-EUU
If you look here, http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0961745&WxsIERv=Nveohf%20N320-232&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Oevgvfu%20Nvejnlf&QtODMg=Nzfgreqnz%20-%20Fpuvcuby%20%28NZF%20%2F%20RUNZ%29&ERDLTkt=Argureynaqf&ktODMp=Nhthfg%2016%2C%202005&BP=0&WNEb25u=Treel%20Fgrtzrvre&xsIERvdWdsY=T-RHHV&MgTUQtODMgKE=&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=364&NEb25uZWxs=2005-11-18%2017%3A23%3A15&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=1871&static=yes&width=1405&height=949&sok=JURER%20%20%28ZNGPU%20%28nvepensg%2Cnveyvar%2Ccynpr%2Ccubgb_qngr%2Cpbhagel%2Cerznex%2Ccubgbtencure%2Crznvy%2Clrne%2Cert%2Cnvepensg_trarevp%2Cpa%2Cpbqr%29%20NTNVAFG%20%28%27%2B%22t-rhhv%22%27%20VA%20OBBYRNA%20ZBQR%29%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=3&prev_id=0965613&next_id=0947182&size=L you can see the name has worn off where the jetty contacts the aircraft. It would definately be reapplied before a high publicity flight, so they probably took that opportunity to use a different name.
As for 777’s, they probably use whatever aircraft they need for the number of people they need to transport rather than choosing a type they like.
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Because we are ‘The North’s Low Cost Airline.’
HON 1R, been meaning to ask for a while, do you work for LS? If so what do you do?
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Is the Jet2 757 based at MAN yet?
Yes it is. I was talking to FlyMonarch about his first flight on it a couple of days ago.
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Blue Islands is the airline formally known as Rockhopper, operating out of the Channel Islands. They have a daily Guernsey – Isle of Man service recently started.
Now Blue Islands, formerly known as Rockhopper, formerly known as Le Coqcs. Now based on Jersey, formerly based on Alderney.
being used by BNWA
That’s correct according to Jethros.
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