G-TREN was the first aircraft I ever flew as crew on when it was G-BRKG at Air Europe. I went to Funchal and back.
I then worked on it as G-TREN at Dan Air and British Airways before it was transferred to GB Airways. Shame it had to have the Blue Poole tail though, that was the only one I really disliked.
Nice to know she’s still around.
1L.
Without wishing to express an opinion either way on what the reporter claimed to uncover…
I did think it was interesting that at NO point in the whole programme did we see the faces or mouths of the people whose voices we were allegedly hearing.
I didn’t understand her big fuss about aircraft overnighting with stairs in place.
Likewise the fuss about aircraft not being sealed. Whilst most airlines do seal aircraft when left for any length of time, I am not aware of any requirement for them to do so.
As for her getting onto an aircraft, I have no problem with anyone holding an airport ID getting onto the aircraft I work on. The fact that they have an ID shows that they have been security checked. In her case, twice.
I have always found the security ay MAN to be very tight when I work out of, or travel through there. Almost to the point of being anal!
1L.
Danairboy,
Do you seriously think BA or any other airline would stop flying to a destination if it made money? Or put a smaller aircraft onto a route if it could sell the seats on a bigger one profitably?
A full aeroplane is not necessarily a profitable one, as has been discussed in many a thread on this forum.
You could argue that placing a smaller aircraft onto a route in a bid to make it viable demonstrates a commitment to flying to that place, and a determination to stay on a route.
Besides which, why does a smaller aircraft represent a downgrading of a service? If I fly out to Boston on a Virgin B747 and come back on a Virgin A340, I see no difference in the service. It is simply a question of matching aircraft and capacity to the demand for the route.
1L.
Kabir,
I’d also like to see Adrian back on the forum. I always thought he was one of the more interesting and knowledgable members.
Wys might be able to give you a surname, as I believe they used to chat about their mutual Guernsey connection. If it helps, I seem to remember that he changed his name to Rockhopper shortly before leaving. Also might be worth trying through the unofficial Guernsey Airport Site. I’ll try to find the website address.
Good Luck.
1L.
STOP PRESS: website address is http://www.ciaviation.com
email is [email]email@ciaviation.com[/email]
Yes indeed. Bacon, egg, sausage and mushrooms for you Sir.
1L.
A lot of the costs that you pay for aren’t directly connected with the actual operation of the aircraft. Older, more established airlines, like the nationals, generally have higher costs which are often a lagacy from the days when airlines didn’t worry too much as Joe Public would pay whatever he were asked to.
Some airlines like BA have been able to reduce fares as a response to the loco’s by drastically reducing their costs. For example, fewer crew and less catering.
On the subject of adding taxes to advertised fares, there were moves afoot in Westminster to oblige uk airlines to quote fares as all inclusive. Ryanair are as ever immune as they are a Stansted based Irish airline, so the other loco’s wormed out of it claiming that Ryanair had an unfair advantage.
The only airlines that adopted advertising all fares fully inclusive were BA, BD and VS.
So are the loco’s cheaper? Not always.
Last Christmas I checked out fares LON to GLA return.
FR £185, EZY £169, BA £84, BD £84.
I recently booked a friend on BA, TLS to LGW in economy, LGW to TLS in business. Including a £10 phone booking supplement and a £25 overseas ticketing charge and all taxes, total cost £160.
The nearest flight timings on EZY would have cost a little over £700.
The moral of the story is shop around, look at every option, remember which carriers are being upfront, and don’t believe the loco hype.
1L.
You’ll get a hot sandwich (either bacon or sausage depending on the catering rotation with a veggie option if you prefer) and a cup of tea or coffee. All included in the price.
To get a full hot breakfast on domestic flights (no such thing as ‘Shuttle’ any more (I think I explained that in a thread somemonths ago)) from LHR/LGW you have to be going to Scotland.
Manchester flights used to have a hot breakfast in the days when we had more crew onboard.
Enjoy.
1L.
Thanks Wys.
I can absolutely assure you that no cabin crew I have ever worked with could care less whether any given passenger on a flight is a ‘tight arse’ or not. We concentrate on getting you from A to B safely, which is after all why we are onboard, and getting what we have to get done in the time we have available to us .
Despite what you guys seem to think I firmly believe that most cabin crew want you to have a pleasant experience onboard. After the flight we remember the nice people, and we remember the assholes. If any cabin crew have ever been unpleasant to you, I suggest you look at your attitude to them, and try not to be the latter.
Cabin crew do not choose what onboard service to offer, they do not choose the airline, cabin or products you decide to pay for, and they do not choose where you sit on the aircraft. I suggest if you object to paying for your food onboard, a policy invented by the loco’s, that you choose your airline accordingly. Those who charge will then soon change their policy.
As for Danairboy’s comment that cabin crew are ‘thick but pretty’ I can assure you that I am neither, but I have delivered genuine, consistantly good cabin service for 15 years at 4 airlines.
I find your sweeping generalisation both inaccurate and offensive.
1L.
Guys, just to clarify that scheduled carriers are able to cancel flights for any reason they like. It is in fact charter carriers who are obliged to operate any flight that they have contracted to do so.
That is why you end up with situations like the recent MyTravel 40 hour delays, where with no other aircraft available they had no choice but to play catch up. A scheduled carrier would have just cancelled flights to get itself back on track.
1L.
I’ve seen similar signs for the destination when boarding flights at Southampton where none of the stands have jetties.
Perhaps on larger aircraft they use seat row signs as well, but I’ve only flown on Embraer 145’s, Dash 8’s and Trislander’s from there so they wouldn’t need them.
I’m a bit puzzled by your comment TWA302. The JetBlue photo IS in the U.S.
1L.
Shamrock, some things to bear in mind.
If an airline accepts a connecting booking, it will be confident that the connection will be achieved assuming everything goes to plan. So I would expect it to go according to plan, rather than not to.
A 25 minute delay to departure seldom means a 25 minute delay to arrival as the schedules allow time to cushion delays.
Transferring at BCN is a quick process, even if you have to change terminal, as the terminals are effectively all in one building.
If you do miss your connection on a full service carrier and the delay is the airlines fault (eg tech problems), they will almost certainly look after you. If it isn’t their fault (eg ATC), they may not as they are not obliged to.
Rebooking onto a later flight depends on seats being available. The next available flight may not be the next flight.
Relax and enjoy,
John.
Softlad, sorry to hear the bad news.
I have been in your shoes twice (Air Europe & Dan Air) so I know how it feels.
If it’s any consolation, you WILL get through it. One thing I have found is that when one airline pulls out, another steps in, so hopefully there will be other opportunities for you.
Keep us informed.
All the best,
John.
I think I might be missing something here Airband.
If BMI Baby fly from GLA, why do you have no choice but to fly from EDI?
1L.
Some great photos there.
G-SCSR was the 4th A320 to be delivered to EXC, although they all arrived pretty close together.
It was the aircraft they used to operate the first ever transatlantic A320 passenger service, a one off charter GATWICK-SHANNON-GANDER-CANCUN (and return), the charterer being the leasing company that owned the aircraft.
EXC were the first UK charter carrier to fly the A320, first to use the now everyday drop down TV screens, and quite a trendsetting airline as far as charter services went.
They were a great airline to travel with (we received complimentary letters from virtually every flight), but I’ve never worked so hard in my life as during my brief spell flying for them.
1L.