What about one of the Armstrong Whitworth FK designs – the FK.10 quadriplane would certainly turn the head 🙂
Roger Smith.
ps and they were designed/built in your part of the country.
Close…. Newcastle! Built in Gosforth and flown from the town moor…. The FK series gets my vote too…
Just glad you’re OK Bex.
I PM’d a while ago, and was expecting some stuff in the post, but heard nothing…. I’m a bit concerned too. Anyone at Gatwick give us a clue as to Bex’s whereabouts?:confused:
First flight – probably a BAc111 or Trident from Newcastle to Tenerife..
First ‘proper flight (ie. non fare paying) – Chipmunk WZ878 11AEF RAF Leeming around 1992…. (Aircraft still alive and in France!)
John, its past your bedtime… you have school in the morning!;)
The picture of the spar above is a bit of a red herring… the corrossion is directly above the photo, essentially, the brackets which hold the skin onto the frames above the spar. The mess you can plainly see on the bottom of the pic is whats left of these brackets and alot of old flaking paint. Seriously, there is no alot of corrosion on the lower spar web, just on the top. The guys have secured a hand held bead blaster and will clean it all back in the next few weeks.
Squibs – the squibs are the small explosive charges located in the bottom of the fire bottles – activated by 28V DC. Remove the plugs, and then remove the bottles completely. Give the local fire brigade a ring and they should know the best way of disposing of them. As has been said, there is no need to have live or even full bottles on board – just ask to have the empty bottles back!
NEAM hold the accolade for owning the only jet fighter to go through the Tyne Tunnel. (F8 meteor from Acklington – its amazing how many people automatically assume it was flown through……:eek: )
Meatboxes split easily – nose, centre section, tail, wing centre (in engine mounts), outer wings. You could probably fit one in a couple of 40ft iso containers, nevermind a flad bed truck.
Ugly as sin, but ugly aircraft are the best (Black Widow, Victor, etc)
Love it! Well done all:D Right… when’s it going to be at Sunderland International Airshow?….
More arguements – YAWN!
Does anyone know when the CAA audit is to be completed and the magic paperwork returned with ‘Permit to Fly’ stamped all over it? 🙂
The probe on XM594 at Newark was fitted post-delivery [07.02.83] by the museum volunteers.
ditto 319
I don’t think there are any Vulcans in IMMEDIATE danger of getting chopped, save for XM603. All told, things are looking good for delta wedges. Who knows what 5 years will bring.
Ones to keep an eye out for are the one at Goose Bay, and XL319 – both may be recieving help, but are still in danger. (Closure of Goose Bay? / Vandals at S’land)
Just a small point – as someone who was heavily involved with NEAM during the 90s and beyond I feel it is only fair to my former colleagues who spent so much time and effort working on 319 to point out that she was not ignored during that time. Indeed if it wasnt for the work of a small number of volunteers it would not have survived to be worked on to bring it back from “the brink”. I had no hand in the physical restoration myself – and would not claim any credit for it,however it does seem that this story has taken on a life of its own.
Of course this in no way detracts from the excellent work that has continued since – all credit for the continuing work done -however it would be nice to see some recognition for those people who quietly ensured that work progressed so that the airframe didn’t just rot away into nothing.
My apologies. I was under the impression from some long-time members that she was left alone – locked up and aside from allowing people on board, no work was done at all. Post ammended.
I think you guys jumped in on XL319 just in time! She was slidng down hill for sure! Are there any pics around of her with lights lit or running?
There aren’t any in the NEAM archive – I know that for certain. Perhaps someone somewhere has some. I do know that the plan is to get DC power applied hopefully this year or early next. Newcastle College Aerospace Department are going to assist Newcastle Aviation Academy with the wiring checks, and very tentitively we shall get the old girl’s fire going again. Perhaps in the future it may be possible to cycle her bomb doors – not from the main hyd system though.
The main problem is that the NAA guys are going to get real jobs this year. One already has for sure, and they will leave!
603 is not JUST helping the 3 live birds…. 😉
XL319 Spars
Xl319 at NEAM (Sunderland) is probably the most ‘at risk’ airframe in the UK. She was the first to be delivered into preservation and was kept systems-live until the early 1990’s when the a.a.p.p. finally had enough. When she arrived, the RAF spares recovered her, split every fuel tank, and robbed the whole of the aft flight deck. The volunteers who begged, borrowed and maybe stole all the bits back should be commended.
However, since the early 1990’s, 319 underwent minimal preventative maintenance until James C (558 contractor) gave restoration a go single handedly, and more recently, myself and the lads from Newcastle Aviation Academy began work (last year) to try to prevent her dying.
As previously mentioned, TVOC gave James C permission to use some of their resources to look at 319’s spars in light of 558’s own problems. James worked for several weeks to investigate the spars and TVOC compiled a report for NEAM highlighting key problem areas.
First of all, the spars themselves: the front spars have minimal corrosion on the spar itself, HOWEVER, the mag alloy brackets used to hold the skinning to the spars are all completely shot. The rear spars are generally sound, but with similar problems with the brackets. This report was compiled in late autumn 2007, by which time, bad weather and lack of daylight hours forced us to concentrate on other areas.
This week, the NAA guys – Chris, John, Michael and Grant will re-open the spar covers and finally get back to repairing the damage within. The plan of action is:
bead blast as much of everything as possible, treat with anti-corrosion compounds, prime, paint, and finally fill with waxoyl.
The corrosion in 319 is certaily not terminal, and as I have stressed on so many occassions in the NEAM thread – she looks worse than she is. When she landed, she was filled with waxoyl from top to toe, and this has payed off.
The worst corroded areas are –
Fin
Rudder
Inner Flaps
Exhaust end caps
Over the winter, we have replaced the majority of the spine with new metal – aluminium replacing the diseased magnesium alloy. I still have a new panel in my hallway, and the fin/spine fillet to manufacture at work. Leaks in the cockpit were sealed, and the instrument panels have been repaired and repainted.
I have now left the project officially as I have my own concerns to attend to, however, the NAA guys are still plugging away and most importantly learning the old skills, restoration techniques, and starting to become obsessed with old aeroplanes. I should add that they are all in their early 20’s…. I don’t thing any one of them has actually seen a Vulcan fly.
Do not write off XL319. She will return from the brink.
LL
Former NEAM Projects Manager, Vulcan restoration team leader + Airframe Engineer
i honestly cannot see the point in this. its a waste, in all honesty there is no guarantee that 558 will be flying for more than one season (not to be a downer i have every faith, but there really is no guarantee) as for looking at airframe condition whilet outside, there are plenty of airframes that have been stored outside longer, look at 319 at NEAM (again sorry guys, i know she’s on the mend) really this is nothing but an act of vandalism.
The difference being, 319 is owned by a charity who view it as a public attraction and an asset to the museum. BAe already own a Vulcan (603) so why would they buy another just to rip it apart?..