Yeah, like a coffee shop or somethin.. :rolleyes:

We’re working on that one……. 😀

Dead as in gone, or dead as in knackered?

If the latter, does it still have cowlings with it?

Bruce

dead as in lying in a puddle of water in 3 sections…… Cowlings are complete and stored off the aircraft (indoors)………:D

Is there a large demand for this type of art image? As a friend of GAVA, and an aspiring artist I’m always on the lookout to try something new. Those images (especially the Komet blazing skywards) are very impressive. Are they all hand applied media or digitally enhanced?

I agree on the burning Lanc picture – very good, but not something I’d have up in the living room… ‘Last Flight’ is an impressive study into the light from flame….

I am trying my best to push civil cause on here 😉

Would it help if I went out and rescued another civil plane? :p Would go after 748 G-BEJD but Lindys Lad has called that one 😀

Jon

Get stuck in on JD mate! The more the merrier. I’ll have any airliner so long as I can get a full interior for it….. oh and something that will fit in my hangar (smaller than an A300 please…!)

nah…. simply all down to the fact that most historics are military – the ones most of us grew up watching at airshows, etc. There’s been a fair bit of civvie stuff lately – Percival Princes, Shorts 330’s, connies, Sunderland airport (non of which will be at legen……(!) )…… swings and roundabouts….. keep the faith.

Good – looks like we have found one candidate to save.

LL – if you are successful, where are you going to keep it? NEAM?

Lets keep a close eye on this one, as it is certainly a worthy candidate.

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Bruce

Sorry Bruce, but this aircraft would not be retired to a museum just yet. It would be bought complete, but only the fuselage would be used (don’t worry, the wings and tail would be retained in storage). It would then become available to museums when we are finished with it (also plus an interior). I would estimate 5 – 10 years use maximum. Preservation is not the aim of this business, simply viewing the aircraft as a cheap training aid. Preservation is, however, my aim….;)

Do people think there is much more to potentially be “lost” from within the preservation movement then?

I know which 748 you mean! Shame as she was sat at Liverpool for ages then for some reason they ferried her up to Blackpool…. 🙁 Odd really as I believe there isnt a great deal you can swap onto a mk2.

Jon

That particular 748 is pretty gutted – no interior. She’s pretty shabby really, but so is the rest of the fleet. I was looking around there a few weeks ago, and she is the better one of the two I was offered, so hopefully she won’t be sat there for too much longer. It depends on the administrators of course. There is a risk that she could be scrapped on site since she shares very little with the other 748’s and probably would be too expensive to return to flight.

As for the other thing, yes I believe that in the UK, more is at risk from inside the preservation movement than outside now. We seem to have reached a point where if it could have been preserved, then it has. What threatens more than anything now is developers! Look at BAM…. how many organisations are sitting on rented sites? All it takes is for one or two land owners to say, ‘ no contract renewal’ , and thats dozens of aircraft looking for a new home. I’m not about to start a museum war here, so I’ll use my own concern as an example.

Look at the NEAM wbsite, http://www.neam.org.uk , and imagine what you would save if it were to close:
Swift – private owners (saved)
F86D – I’m sure IWM would have it (saved)
anson – priavte owners (saved)
eveything else …… scrapped.

just a thought

603 technically is in the preservation scene already – TVOC and BAE are parting her out for spares.

She will die this year, but her demise has been much publicised on here and other forums, so I won’t mention her again.

Can’t think of anything else which is in absolute danger up this end of the country. Perhaps the Humbrol Hunter? Perhaps our Vulcan?