Way back on page 4, Jon H suggested a working party for one day’s work on the Vulcan. This may become a reallity finally. IF we get the paint, and WHEN we finish the skin repairs, there is going to be a huge amount of rubbing down needed followed by corrosion treatment before applying the painted surfaces. We will need volunteers on a big scale. I’m sorting out the details regarding insurance problems, but I’ll try to keep you all informed and try to give fair warning!
By the way, in the photo’s above, that is the Fake John looking rather ginger and slightly unhinged….
Providing ALL of the drawings for the aircraft (lets stick with Siskin) can be found or re-drawn from a single source, then in theory, from an engineering point of view, yes.
Funding such an event would be an entirely different problem. Would organisations (not so much individuals) be prepared to spend money on a project if they are going to receive no direct benefit themselves? One would have to assume that the completed aircraft would be passed to a large collection such as IWM or RAFM, collections which could probably make the aircraft themselves…. I’m pretty sure that organisations such as the BAPC do not have the available funds to spend on a project like this. (SH / BD comments?), although given the courses they run, could aircraft parts be manufactured in this way? Could aircraft technical schools be asked to help in such a project ? – 60 – 90 students a year could make many parts AFTER the completion of their studies and in free time to improve their skills.
Individuals would probably find no problem with making a few brackets for inclusion, or even spending a weekend away applying fabric to a wing.
The type of aircraft would also have a large bearing on proceedings. A Siskin could probably be made with little fuss, with only the engine being a major investment for someone. A Stirling on the other hand… well, you’d be better off buying a back-packing tour of China…
Interesting concept though….
Loony Toons needs a bit of recognition here – as it stands at the minute, he is NOT a member of NEAM officially, and yet he has taken a considerable amount of his own time (and money) to design the website, and get it to this stage. As he said, it is an ongoing project, and the more things you guys point out, the better it will become. Thanks Dave!:D
No updates this week unless Avrobaby adds something. The XL319 crew were on tour….
If anyone wants a link placing, please let either me or Loony Toons know! So far – to be added:
TVOC
WWRGallery
RAF Millom
Brunty’s cold war jets
Jotuns Paints
*Vultee – we need yours and the other re-enactors web address*
North East Military Vehicles
Newcastle Aviation Academy
Newcastle College
…. if we’ve forgotten anyone who has helped us, please let us know! Its the least we can do to link to your website…
Happy Birthday Bex!:D 😀 😀
North East Aircraft Musum have both a Luton minor AND Major:
‘G-AFUG’ Luton LA-4 Minor (BAPC.97)
G-ARAD Luton LA-5 Major
The Major was (I believe) un-finished and never flew. It is still stored in pieces out of public view, although it did see daylight just a couple of weeks ago when we moed the storage shed about.:rolleyes:
The Minor has what can only be described as an *interesting* wing fold system, which basicly involved sawing the wing in half and adding a hinge. Not good. I hope it never flew…. 😎 It is also incomplete – no engine and no cowls. If there are any minor fanatics who have a spare set of cowls which they would like to donate, please PM me…..:cool:
lots of pics, but I’ll have to post them tomorrow – 4 hour drive each way has left me a little bit tired, and I have to edit the size of them before posting….:o
Karl – Stop wasting time on here, get that truck rebuilt, and get back to NEAM… 😀 😀 😀
Good website.
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[QUOTE the u/c bays are a mess. Not corrosion, but peeling paint! I’m really not looking forward to getting in there…. QUOTE]
i’ve been looking forward to do this for weeks. it’ll be no problem
Me & Michael wnt down this afternoon. we put the silicon round the nose, engines & stbd wing untill we couldn’t be bothered anymore. we used 2 cartridges. so i think we’ll have plenty left for the rest of her.
But did you put it on straight?…. post some pictures or I may be forced to travel all that way to the museum to inspect your handiwork. 😉 (its about 200 yards…):D 😀 😀
Good work!
LL, how bad are the bays as the rest doesnt sound too bad. also what about the panel thats in front of the fin I think they called it the dielectrical panel on the vulcan DVD?
The dielectric panel is fine – its a composite anyway, so won’t corrode. Its a bit mossy, but other than that, factory fresh.
the u/c bays are a mess. Not corrosion, but peeling paint! I’m really not looking forward to getting in there…. To get to the front spar, there are several access panels in the fwd outboard edge of the u/c bay. We found that most of the fastners in those panels are siezed. They will have to come off to get to the spars properly.
How does the underside of the wings and engine doors look?
In a word, ok. Mostly just surface corrosion. The engines have been steadily dripping oil since she landed, so the engine doors are in pristine condition. Most of the fasteners have siezed though. The main concern is the NACA duct just behind the RAT, which has had some puncture damage, and has corroded heavily. It is just a single panel though, and a repair will be manufactured as soon as the spine and fin have been re-built. The rest of the underside is not too bad – all fixed with plenty of rubbing down, and some corrosion treatment. Once all of the flaking paint has been removed, it won’t look that bad! Just don’t mention the undercarriage bays…:eek: Most of the aeroplane wears three layers of paint, and in most cases its just the first layer which has peeled away. Some years ago a partial re-paint was attempted, but the paint used was not of the appropriate quality and has faded terribly. It has, however, saved the airframe! Ther fin and spine are by far the worst parts. Why does no-one believe me when I say her innards are perfect?…… The first thing which happened when she landed was someone decended upon 319 with a few gallons of waxoyl….
Bloodhound – better green than rust… Don’t shoot the messenger, howeVer, I will pass on the concern…. that said, I was under the impression that it is a Mk2…. What’s the differences between a Mk1 and 2?
Whirybird – will go back into its navy colours. Just a re-paint and spruce up. No yellow in sight (except the etch primer it currently wears….)
EDIT: The Vulcan monkeys will have me shot! I forgot to mention that they have completed the stbd main undercarriage leg… Its now black!
Next on the hitlist is the drip strip application, and the completion of the sheet metal repairs. We will save this aeroplane….:cool: 😎
… and GJ319 (nice moniker…) lets just agree that you are a member….:D 😀 *ATTENTION: NEVER LET GJ319 ANYWHERE NEAR AN AXE OR OTHER SHARP IMPLIMENT*
We have the whole landing Video at the museum including interviews with the crew and their departure via Jetstream..
I told you things were going to happen quickly – the first spine panel has been made and requires a little bit of trimming to fit. The second spine panel has been removed, the third is good so will not be touched. One of the VERY bad fin fillet panels has been removed, just forward of the fin aerial on the port side. I’ll make the new panels tomorrow..
Phone in and vote… unless its already been decided who the winner will be. Are Ant and Dec hosting the results?……….
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