Lindy’s first run is always slower to allow the crowd to see her properly. The return leg of the second day is usually the fastest – often at rotation speed…. a few years back, I SWEAR there was daylight under her mainwheels…….
I can only speak regarding my experiences with Lindy at Elvington – we maintained her to the AP including scheduled servicing based on hours run, and calendar events. Certain systems could not be cycled such as the undercarriage retraction and auto pilot. Everything else worked as advertised. She was regularly washed down (including the jet pipes) and inspected for corrosion at every opportunity. If she was a static exhibit, I guarantee she would not have the regular servicings such a large aircraft requires (I use Vulcan xl319 as an example of corroded airframes here) and would have corroded further than she has. As a runner, she is treated to a five year re-paint, which agin, she would not have in a museum collection. It is BECAUSE she is a live aircraft that she has so many people looking after her, and THAT is what makes the difference.
How many static aircraft have such attention lavished over them? Keep the runners running – overall, its the best way of keeping the airframes going. Look beyond the hangarage / chemical corrosion / and all of the other INDIVIDUAL factors – view it as a whole.
I agree that the BEST way of preserving an airframe is to keep it in an air tight hangar, constant in humidity and Ph level, but how many museums can afford to run a hangar like that let alone buy the thing in the first place?
The big running jets were bought by individuals, not museums, and they certainly could not afford to buy /rent hangarage to house a Vulcan or Victor.
Be thankful we can still hear Conways or Olympus fire up.
And lastly, on the issue of safety in an emergency- Most if not all groups use ex-pilots and crew for the runs (other ‘pilots’ can be trained easily for ground runs and emergency proceedures), and ALL follow the RAF safety and servicing notes. MOST if not all have fire appliances on standby for engine runs.
Good luck to the crews (air and ground) of XL426, may she continue making a noise. And by the way lads, don’t drop the new fuel filter when you rob it out of my jet………
Did Lindy run?
Have Jon Whaley and Miss Demeanor missed an Elvington airshow ever?
Anything else unusual there?
Here’s our lady on her last landing… Do we qualify for the ‘how low can you go thread for the first pass?
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1730977582734120894
I THINK the re design in the wing occured just before the B2 production – I think I have seen some B1A’s with the Kink in the leading edge. Aerodynamics was the reason – better lift, stall speed, low speed handling, etc.
Did Hawker Siddley take over Avro during the Vulcan’s production run, or soon after it? I too have seen them labelled as HS Vulcans, but never gave it a thought…..
There are far more knowledgable people on here than me, so thats my two peneth….
£17.5 million – cheaper than the millenium dome, with a much longer useful life. Cheaper than the Angel of the North (and able to fly), with a more purposeful life…. need I go on?
558 is worth every penny – none of which has cost any of you anything other than donations. If the lottery money had not gone to 558, there would be more ‘art’ loitering about on the nearest hillside.
incidently, TVOC are back where they started all those years ago – owners of a ground running Vulcan….
The Echo article has been released today, here it is http://www.sunderlandecho.com/daily-feature?articleid=3119756
Talk about putting words into you mouth! For the record, I mentioned BAe and TVOC as expressing interest in helping us with parts, not that they ARE…
There was NO mention about making 319 fly again – that refered to 558!
Normal ‘iron’ bombs – not ‘flying bombs’
Finally, the proceeds from Jeeps and Jets will help the whole museum, not just the ‘vulcan to the carpark’ fund…
Ah well, you can’t have everything… good publicity for us though. The newspaper is circulated around most of South Tyneside and into Durham, so its a large catchment area. Thank you to Sunderland Echo! There will be another 2 articles about Jeeps and Jets in the near future.
We now have the structural survey for 319 – thanks again to TVOC. All hands on deck! We have a Vulcan to save…!
And dispite my best protests, there are no current plans to fire up the a.a.p.p. on 319. It may be possible in the future to get 28V DC and limited hydraulics (via a rig), but nothing along those line will be considered until MUCH MUCH later
ha ha thats where you are wrong, i aint loitering any more ha ha ha:cool:
ah well, thats someone else I can’t talk about any more!;)
Update time! (Again)
Senior John has inished the dragonfly! (we need some nav lights!)
Mystere roundels are complete – only a few warning markings to put on, then we have our first Care and Maintenance airframe. Not bad for 35 years work….
Karl has been applying the Bloodhound’s markings on its shiney new paint
Semi-Hogg has finished the firestreak missile which is now in the shop
The above named and crew have completed the door, ladders, seat handles, primed the nose leg and the drag braces on the MLG on the Vulcan. As soon as we get some black paint, the gear will be finished off. Next on the hitlist are the wheels(!) and the cokpit instrumentation in preparation for Jeeps and Jets….
Wow, you guys have been busy! I’m over at the zoo close to you next week – I might have to make my excuses and come see you…
Keep up the good work:D
Let’s add them to the list as well then.
And perhaps Lindy’s Lad Westland Whirlwind proposed project as well.
Any more?
Dave Robinson is also working on a Typhoon in it’s early stages.
Cheers
Cees
The whirlwind project has stalled at an early stage. Mainly due to lack of workshop facilities to be quite honest. Also lack of cash. It is still in the back of my mind, and I have a few gigabites of data ready to rock! As it stands at the minute, I could construct a good replica fuselage externally. The engines, undercarriage, and spars are the stumbling points so far. All are not insurmountable problems, but like I said, I need a good workshop and facilities first. Or a shed….
spotted
Thanks for that. I’ll have a word with the manager to see what he wants to do…
JRXL319 you have been spotted loitering unable to post! ha ha.
These people have one.
http://www.binbrook.demon.co.uk/html/F104G.html
Also mentioned here:-
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1073513&postcount=6
No idea if they’d be open to offers though, but as their motto says… “Nothing ventured, nothing gained”.
I keep meaning to pay this place a visit; it’s only 20 minutes down the road.
Dean.
While I remember, the manager fancies getting an F104 starfighter – any ideas? (Swap / deal / purchase)
XM692 – have you tried RAF Cosford? In AFTS’s annex in the sooty shed, there was a gnat which had been liberally sprayed with salt water and used as a corrosion demonstrator. Its possible that it still exists. It would have to be scrapped INSIDE the building, but I would enquire as to its whereabouts before Cosford closes for good. Just a thought….
A certain Mr. Garner will probably be there – amazing artist and can talk the hind legs off a donkey! Top bloke. Likes Tiger Moths…
You’ll have fun!
or a much better idea – someone could build a hangar with a BIG DOOR in it – best of both worlds….