Ah yes, so he did! Apologies. That’s what I get for skimming!
I have thousands of miles in the P-3 and loved every minute of it. Even better if the Air Ord was good in the galley on those long flights!
David Burke and New Forest, that’s an Electra, not an Orion. Buffalo have Electra’s as well.
P-3 has different engines, props and fuselage. And goes faster 🙂 410knots at sea level is when the overspeed horn goes off from memory 🙂 and it will get there very easily.
As far as drilling split pin holes after installation and torque, it is pretty common in the British Aero industry, or at least it was.
You wouldn’t believe how many drill bits you would go through on a Westland Wasp when you put new (undrilled!) bolts in. Nearly everything had blank bolts. What a pain in the you know what that was!
Does anyone else notice the chin strap on his cap? When he takes the cap off, the chin strap stays on his head. What exactly is that chin strap?? 1:46 in the footage. It looks like there is something on the top of his head.
If you can get in, it is in the Million Air hangar at Vancouver International Airport. As is the Spitfire.
VR796 doesn’t fly. It flew from Victoria to Vancouver in 2014, did the Abbotsford Airshow in 2015 and has not flown since. I believe it has a hangar mate in a Spitfire XIV (TZ138) also owned by Bob which also does not fly.
If anyone has seen either of Bob’s machines flying since 2015 I am very happy to be proven wrong.
Wonder if they need drawings. I have a complete set for the B-17G.
Except for the one that is flying over there in the US of A.
Correct, Smithsonian aren’t too worried as long as you aren’t making money off of their drawings. Their prices are also VERY reasonable.
There are a number of businesses in the UK who are still willing to supply drawings. Some with an NDA so that you can’t profit from those drawings (which is fair enough!) and others with a disclaimer similar to the Smithsonian.
Nicko, I wish you did have that OCE scanner or something similar. I have a complete set of B-17 blueprints on microfilm that need to be digitised!
I can put you in touch with the Bomber Command Museum in Nanton, Alberta if you want.
They may have some old containers floating around that they don’t need.
Western Canada is very big. Do you have a province or city in mind?
Big Steel Box are everywhere in Canada. Won’t be the cheapest, but probably will be the most convenient. http://www.bigsteelbox.com
Nice to see that there are some like me who respect John’s wishes.
He fought hard to get some of these aircraft. The RNZAF often gave him unrealistic time frames to get the aircraft off the base or they would be destroyed (like 24 hours notice!), which meant that sometimes the saw/gas axe had to be used to save what he could.
Nobody was interested in what he was doing and for years people labelled him an eccentric/crazy who had planes and tanks that nobody thought would ever be worth anything.
Now people label him as stubborn and unwilling to preserve valuable artifacts for the general public to see. How times have changed!!! LOL.
In fact he is neither stubborn or unwilling. Just fed up with certain people and museums trying to tell him what to do with his personal property. He has preserved history exactly as it came to him. NOTHING has been changed on these aircraft since he collected them.
My fathers cousin had three Mossies in New Zealand. He stripped the wheels and hydraulics for farm equipment and then each Nov 5th would burn one for Guy Fawkes. That is what those aircraft were worth back then. My dad remembers how well they burned!
If you do make the trek to go and see him, take your wife/girlfriend with you to help break the ice. Keep you camera in your pocket or your car and don’t bring it out until he says it is Ok.
You’ll find that John is a great bloke with a great memory and a fountain of knowledge. Talk about apples. Talk about tanks (My father drove Valentine tanks, so we talked about that for ages!). Talk about planes. Prepare to be amazed.
DON’T tell him what he should do with his collection. It is his, not yours. Keep your opinions to yourself. He doesn’t tell you what to do with your life.
The aircraft are protected from the elements. They are time capsules that are preserved. Restoration would destroy that.
Other Kiwi’s on the forum probably know about a person close to John that is helping him, at a speed that John is comfortable with. Time will tell what happens to the collection, I just hope it is detailed in his will and that his wishes are respected after he falls off this planet.
John is a very private individual.
If you do go and look at his collection, please respect his wishes that photos do not appear in print or on the web (unless he gives you explicit permission). All publicity seems to do is increase the number of people hounding him!
His P-40 is a real time capsule too. P-40N-20 NZ3220 “Gloria Lyons”.
I don’t know the differences either sorry. I only worked on the Mk.88 in the RNZAF.
We had MDC on the canopy so that the seats could get out a bit quicker when you pulled the handle, which I see is not installed on this Mk.80 in the pre-crash photos of it.
Might just be removed because it is not very nice to look after!