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  • in reply to: A.W. Argosy. Help Needed #1201052
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    BAZV…Impressed by the speed…

    Surely, you must be joking :p

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    in reply to: Argosy Website #1201233
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    Corporal Frank & SSP’s….

    Argosy Air-dropping

    RPM gave a great description of MSP (medium stressed platform) dropping. Was there also one called SSP? If so what was it. Or is my memory failing me.[/QUOTE]

    Frank,

    Yes, I have SSP dropping at Tangmere in my Logbook which was Training and also SSP dropping out of Bahrein but that was probably in support of an Army exercise in the Land of Sand.

    I have absolutely no idea of what an SSP consisted of, weight etc.. What did it mean anyway… “Something” Stressed Platform ??

    Maybe Mally can give us an idea.

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    in reply to: A.W. Argosy. Help Needed #1201237
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    Ditching at Khormaksar…

    Has anyone got the full story on this ? I can’t recall what happened here even if I did know the full story in the first place. I do recall that this happened on a Check Flight with a QFI on board.

    It looks to me like something went completely haywire here….. The configuration (from the photograph) shows No’s 2 & 3 props feathered as they have entered the sea feathered (edge on) . See that No.1’s blades are bent because they had pitch on and presented a flat surface to the sea causing the bends, but I can’t make out the No. 4 for sure, but it looks as if it is feathered as well. The aircraft also has Approach flap on (24 degrees). Flaps were T.O. 12 degrees, App 24 degrees and Full, 40 degrees.

    In assymetric training we would have one outboard engine feathered, this aircraft definitely has No’s 2 and 3 feathered which is unusual to say the least. As No. 1 was not feathered, that would mean that what was considered the “worst” engine to lose, the No.4, was feathered for training but then “Why, Oh, Why” the No’s 2 and 3 as well ?

    On final approach with 4 engines they would normally be at about “Torque 180”, on three engines at about “Torque 240”, that configuration would not be in the “Autofeather” range (engine RPM over 14,500), so the feathering actions had to be Manual Actions and that means the H.P. Cocks (Fuel Control Levers) being pulled back to “Feather”.

    On an assymetric approach with the No.4 feathered only the No.4 H.P. Fuel Control Lever (Open/Shut/Feather) would be at “Feather”.

    Either that or all four engines were at “Go-around” power, above 14,500 RPM and the LP Cocks were switched to “SHUT” on no’s 2, 3 and 4. Second option unlikely, I’ll stick with the H.P. Cocks.

    Three (3) H.P. Cocks at “Feather”….?????

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    in reply to: Confrontation – Know your enemy, was it Soekarno ? #1201249
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    There seems very little info about what when on….

    Darren Be says:

    “There seems very little info about what when on out there so these stories posted on here are priceless.”

    Darren,

    Soekarno wanted the entire island of Borneo, if the British were to give Sarawak and Sabah away, why wouldn’t they give it to him he asked. He already had Kalimantan and the states of Sarawak and Sabah would do very nicely but there was also oil rich Brunei which was “the jewel” that sparkled. Because Britain was leaving the Far East, he thought it might be a good idea to have Malaya too and his first act there was to drop paras into Johore.

    Religion wise, Sarawak was not Moslem, it was more Pagan but the interior people of Sarawak lived a communal life, everything in the Longhouses was shared, a form of Communism if you like but without the political will to force it onto others. Each longhouse I visited had pictures on the wall of HRH and the Greek Prince. I did get asked quite a few times, “Why are you giving us to Malaya, we do not have cultural ties with Malaya ?” Sabah was different, there they were Moslem in the main and of course Brunei is Moslem. Of the three states, I personally consider Sarawak was the worst off and probably has had to change the most.

    You only have to look on Google Earth to see what they have done to the rainforest, there are logging tracks everywhere on the ridgelines even in deepest 3rd Division. You can assess that Nanga Gaat became a centre for logging just by looking at the area today. I know what logging does to rainforest as I have seen it with my own peepers.

    When Confrontation started there were no ground troops there and the Indons could walk over the border; Indon aircraft overflew Brunei dropping leaflets. It looked like Brunei would go, followed by Sarawak. South of Kuching was hot and in desperation, the British Government allowed the Ibans to head hunt again until they got some troops there. I can imagine the scene with the local District Officer saying, “I say, you Iban chappies…the big White Queen says that you chaps can take a few of those beastly Indon heads when they pop over the border…Now what do you say to that..Hmmm?” Big grins all round…….

    I recall reading about a supposed “crack” Indonesian Army Division, the “Siliwangi Division”, that encroached over the border south of Kuching through a rubber plantation and were met by yellow-painted Ibans brandishing pangars (long knives) and the Siliwangis ran.

    While I was on the SRT Course at Ternhill in Shropshire there were returned pilots who had gained experience and who were now back to train new pilots going out there. They had colour slides of the jungle, the bases, the people and some depicted smiling Ibans holding heads.

    The strategy was one of quiet containment, just keep the Indons out and there will then be very little trouble. Get the people behind you with a hearts and minds campaign, intern troublemakers in fenced camps. Patrol the border with troops on the ground, gather intelligence from related people over the border, eliminate the Indons when they did come over, gain air superiority and they would eventually give up. Stop them at every turn but if there was a build-up over the border which would cause big trouble, then nip it in the bud and that is where the British SAS, Australian and New Zealand SAS entered the picture in order to “visit” these build-ups and cause maximum damage.

    Other units of the British Army also “visited” the other side and I have here a book about the Durham Light Infantry, written by a member who was there and it tells of British losses around a border area the author calls “Gunang Gadja” which from my maps was “Red 19” and it was South-East of Pluman Mapu (Red 14) and South-West of Nibong (Red 04), for those that still have the maps.

    The area to the South and South-East of Kuching was the hottest area and was mainly 103 Squadron territory with a forward Base at Simmangang, but 110 Squadron also operated from Kuching, I did a few detachments there. Helicopter LZ’s were coded Red, White and Blue and apportioned numbers depending on which area of operations you were in, 1st, 2nd or 3rd Division controlled from Kuching. 4th Division was controlled from Labuan. Commander British Forces Borneo (COMBRITBOR) had a beautiful house on a headland near Brunei town.

    Throughout the conflict, the modus operandi was to drop troops into the border in strengths of about 30, they would patrol the border from Grid Ref to Grid Ref and be re-supplied after about two weeks, where rations (including live chickens) would be taken up to a known LZ for a rendezvous point and the patrol on the ground would show the colour of the day by a smoke grenade and the chopper would approach the pad but be ready to pull off if the unexpected happened. Sometimes the troops would not be there in which case you held off until they either appeared or you could locate them by the coloured smoke which would drift through the jungle and come out a mile or so from where the troops were. If they were late, you came back later. Travel is not easy through the jungle as I well know.

    It was a bit hit and miss at times and as ‘Sycamore’ said earlier, your enemy was poor communications air to ground and ground to air.

    After another two weeks the exhausted patrol would be picked up and this is where gallons of “underarm” would have come in handy ! The aroma of the jungle is also hard to get rid of, you can smell for days….. There would always be a party on at the Army camp after a patrol.

    Biggest enemy to the troops (apart from the Indons) was the possibility of catching Leptospirosis which is a disease brought on by water contaminated by rats or other vermin. Drinking such water was one way but it was known that walking through water with a recent cut or abrasion would also do the trick. Lepto casualties were evacced to Singapore for treatment at the BMH. Lepto sends you yellow in colour, affects the kidneys and other organs and makes you comatose, it can kill.

    “Full Precautions” roles happened occasionally if a Patrol was in trouble and had to be picked up in a hurry, the Whirlwind would have two GPMG’s mounted one at the door and one at the LHS window and two crewmen would be employed. The pilots had minimum armour plating protection as in “theory” you do not send soft-skinned vehicles into a combat zone.

    Very rarely did we have to use the rescue mode and pick people up by the wire and strop but it did happen. Flying was usually about five or six days a week and it was from 6-6:30am till dusk at The Gaat, that would be typical during Confrontation. When it eased off in mid-1967, flying became less until by 1968 we were back in Singapore and then started detachments to HongKong.

    Know your enemy: Any war…

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    in reply to: Confrontation – Know your enemy, was it Soekarno ? #1201377
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    110 Squadron gathering ….

    Here we have 110 Squadron gathered for a group photograph… I recall this could have either been when Confrontation was declared “over” or on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the formation of the 110 (Hyderabad) Squadron…. can’t remember…anyway, that’s Squadron Leader Richard Hadlow, presiding, in the centre, front row.

    http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss154/vinedodger/110Squadron0002.jpg

    Darren Be, Some good photos there.
    XJ763 definitely at Kuching. No’s 6 is The Gaat, No. 8 is The Gaat but the negative is reversed, No.12 is The Gaat and is the cairn in memory of the Naval guys lost in the two Wessex. In the background can be seen the hot shower arrangment tower with the 44 Gallon drum as a tank, and No. 13 is The Gaat again. The hill in the background had an Army Radio Net station on the top manned by a couple of guys. The Army also used the top of that hill as a Mortar ranging target for the mortar pits at the Army camp and there was one pit near our crewmen basha by the river. In target practice one day they nearly hit their own Radio Net station up there. One or two of the Belvedere on pads also look to be The Gaat as they always used the top pads due to their length when they visited The Gaat.

    Postfade,
    Can’t remember the hull serial of the Sycamore we had on 110 for VIP duties, could have been that one. The pilot on VIP was a Master Pilot of very great experience with a large moustache, but one event spelled the end of the Sycamore in service for VIP work and this was when the poor thing had a donk failure over Singapore on a VIP trip and the Master Pilot put it down onto a cleared building site right in the heart of Singapore. Very embarassing as the photos appeared in the Straits Times. I think it was carrying the Commander of FEAF at the time, who had to whistle up a taxi….

    When 110 did the VIP runs after that, the Whirlwind used had an “airline” type seat fitted and a cover under the Main Rotor Gearbox to prevent the “normal” drips of oil landing on the VIP’s head. My notoriety in VIP flights was when the Greek Prince visited Singapore and we were tasked to pick him up from Air House just after lunch (and maybe Pink Gins), I recall. We duly arrived and I rolled out the strip of red carpet and put out the steps. He arrived and got in. I rolled up the carpet and put it and the steps in the cabin and climbed in to sit in the back. The Greek Prince ordered me out…”What are you doing here, get out”. No problem, I plugged in and told the pilot to come and pick me up after he’d dropped the Greek Prince off. What outstanding arrogance from the Greek Prince, the hanger’s on at Air House saluted as the Whirlwind lifted off and I waved “goodbye” too !

    A little off topic here but another amusing tale…. We were up in Hongkong doing cordon work for the Police when 28 Squadron was building up. There was a restricted fly-zone by the Chinese border which required special authorisation for Ops. The Chinese border guards were known to be a bit trigger happy with their burp guns. One job I had was to operate a large aerial camera in the back of a Whirlwind as it flew along the border and I was to push the button once every five seconds or so. Anway out of this came a beautiful picture of LOWU Railway Station with a very nice capture of Mao Tse Tung’s face which was on a huge billboard on the side of the station. The Squadron had already had its 50th Anniversary and had produced a little booklet which had Squadron Leader Richard Hadlow’s face depicted in the welcome address in the front of the booklet. I cut out Hadlow’s face and it fitted very nicely onto the picture of LOWU Railway Station over Mao’s face. I gave it to one of the Flight Commanders and he had it framed and stuck it on the wall of his office. Hadlow went in their one day, and said, “Oh, that’s a picture of LOWU Railway Sation isn’t it ?” He peered at the picture closely….”Very funny”, he said and walked out !

    Know your enemy: Squadron Leader’s who “might” find out you’ve made them the butt of a joke !!!

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    in reply to: Confrontation – Know your enemy, was it Soekarno ? #1202077
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    A Caribou belonging to the “Ten Terrors”…

    A TUDM (Tentera Udara Di-Rajah Malaysia) [Royal Malaysian Air Force] DHC-4 Caribou FM-1102. The “Ten Terrors” was the nickname applied (obviously the “Tentera” lent itself splendidly….)

    http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss154/vinedodger/Tentera.jpg

    I think this was taken at Long Pa Sia and I always thought that Long Pa Sia was at the eastern end of Sarawak but I am told (and can only find) a Long Pa Sia in Sabah which comes up on Google Earth (if you enter the name).

    When 110 Squadron moved to Labuan and Bario in 1967, Confrontation had officially ended but the presence was still required just in case it flared up again, particularly in Brunei.

    Some Caribous were based in Labuan and supplied the strips, Long Pa Sia, Long Semado, Bario and the SRT’s (Whirlwinds) ferried the supplies to the border posts. The Malaysian Army was taking over (to have a second go at defending their own country) and they were using Alouette helicopters in support. Some Ghurkas remained.

    The TUDM lost one of these Caribous after an engine failure on the way to Long Semado, the Captain turned back for Labuan but exhausted his fuel on the good side and crash landed at Meligan but off the grass strip and the Caribou was destroyed.

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    in reply to: Skegness Aerodrome. #1202224
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    First flight ever…

    My first flight ever was in a Miles Messenger at Skegness around about 1950, it was for about ten minutes for ten shillings. I think there were three joy-flighters plus the pilot, so the return would have been thirty-bob. It was on our first family holiday after WWII.

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    in reply to: Confrontation – Know your enemy, was it Soekarno ? #1202234
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    Speaking of the floods at Nanga Gaat…

    When one flood happened at The Gaat, I happened to be at Kapit which was downriver from The Gaat by 40 miles. That is not the straight line distance as normal policy and for safety reasons we generally followed the rivers.

    Kapit had an airstrip which could take Single Pioneers (maybe Twins too but I never saw one there) and we used to get some supplies flown into there which we picked up by chopper and also did a buy in the town as well.

    The flood at The Gaat had washed away the KOSB Army Officer’s Toilet basha and it floated gracefully down the Rajang with this big sign on it saying “Officers Only”. We had noticed it wending it’s way downstream when we flew down to Kapit….

    There were four drunken “Jocks” at Kapit who had been out on the town (let loose !) and they had just boarded a hired longboat for the trip back to The Gaat and had moved off from the jetty at Kapit as the KOSB Officers Toilet basha “hove” into view. The Jocks in the longboat on seeing this “Officers Only” toilet, all stood up (swaying mind you !) and saluted the basha as it went past, whereupon, laughing hilariously, they all fell into the river…..

    Another burst of humour from that time !

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    in reply to: Confrontation – Know your enemy, was it Soekarno ? #1202235
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    Nanga Gaat ..two more pics…

    Another view of Nanga Gaat, this time looking to the South (previous view looking North).

    http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss154/vinedodger/NangaGaat2.jpg

    Looking at this photograph anybody can appreciate the amount of water it would take to fill up this river valley for two or three days if the river rose enough to be under the bashas which are closest to the river, just left of centre (one of which was the Crewmen’s [my] accomodation)…. Looking South the Sarawak/Kalimantan border was about 30 miles away and the Sungei Gaat headed off that way for quite a distance. As mentioned 848 Sqdn (RN) were there before us and they lost two Wessex choppers in the Rajang River just off to the right of the photo. I recall 17 or 18 lives lost, they were flying back to the Gaat up the river in formation and it was said that the rotor blades touched.

    http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss154/vinedodger/MainStNangaGaat.jpg

    This second picture is of “Main Street” Nanga Gaat, looking East. Officers basha, on the left, behind it, a second Basha which was the Staff SNCO’s basha. Both made out of tree poles, woven attap walls and split bamboo floors. There was a monkey in the camp named “Charlie” who used to sit on the roof of the SNCO’s basha and jump onto you as you walked past, scared the hell out of you the first time it happened. Building on the right was a more permanent structure and was the airmen’s accomodation and admin office and further along at the end was the Cookhouse and Mess hall. The Chinese cook was able to produce delicious roast water buffalo in there ! That was the best meal to be had there. His sandwich packs were always of the same variety though, which one Canadian pilot, who shall remain nameless, called “Donkey something or other….” !

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    in reply to: Confrontation – Know your enemy, was it Soekarno ? #1202337
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    110 Sqdn Base at Nanga Gaat….

    Here is a picture of the forward base at Nanga Gaat, 3rd Division, Sarawak. This base was first opened up by 848 Squadron RN.

    http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss154/vinedodger/NangaGaat0002.jpg

    The river runs from right to left and is the River Rajang, the Sungei Gaat is at the left. “Nanga” in Iban means “junction”. The Gaat is at 1D 53’N, 113D 27’E for the Google Earth users. There were about 30 permanent staff there, mostly aircraft trades and they did a year there with 1 break. Ugh ! I think there was some interchange of personnel from the Gaat with Sibu and Kuching just to make life a bit easier. The HQ building is to the left of the Hangar and that and the Mess hall and main accomodation for the guys were the only properly constructed buildings. There were no hot showers there until a Sergeant Pilot built them from detail in an old Army manual. Good on yer Fred ! The Army camp is on the hill on the right. First time I went there it rained very heavily and the fuel dump at left went under water as the river rose about 35 feet. Empty drums were picked up and washed away.

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    in reply to: Confrontation – Know your enemy, was it Soekarno ? #1202596
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    An attempt at humour…a Group Captain ?

    Alertken,

    There was no humour about it. He was speaking to an assembled throng of over 500 or so people as spectators and on parade itself . We S.N.C.O’s all remarked on it and it was the first time I had heard it myself although it had been mentioned as “having been the way of the past”. Here it was in 1967 being said again at an official engagement, a parade to celebrate 50 years of the R.A.F., by what I regard now as a silly old f@rt who should have known better in modern times. A simple, “Ladies and Gentlemen, I welcome you all….” would have been a greeting, what the old f@rt said was not. You see, in that kind of blinkered thinking, only Officers are Gentlemen and therefore, you can’t possibly say that to a load of grubby airmen……

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    in reply to: Confrontation – Know your enemy, was it Soekarno ? #1203601
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    Long Jawi aerial photo….

    Hello Sycamore, still enjoy a glass of Claret ?

    Picture is of Long Jawi which is at 2D 07 ‘N, 114D 11’E for those who like Google Earth…. This place is quite a distance from the Kalimantan border but in or about ’63 it got wiped out by the Indons who travelled overland to get there and the place was overrun. They didn’t get away with it though, they were trailed for days on end until they were all eliminated. There was a Malaysian Government White Paper issued on this grisly episode. I must have a look for it on the net…
    http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss154/vinedodger/AerialViewLongJawi.jpg[/IMG]

    View is looking South-East over the main river and up the creek ! Army camp at the top left, longhouses bottom left. Not sure but I think the MSP or it may have been a 1 Ton platform went through the roof of the longhouse by the creek at the north end. The roofing attap looks a bit fresher up there ! These longhouses were quite large at Long Jawi. The topless ladies used to wash in the creek under the bridge. To the right of the Sungei are the chopper pads. You can see the DZ “A”, to the right of the pads. There is a Whirlwind parked up the hill middle right which means there was a drop on that day. I used to watch from further up the hill for extra safety !

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    in reply to: Confrontation – Know your enemy, was it Soekarno ? #1204592
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    Couple of funny stories from Borneo

    I posted these after Corporal Frank on the thread “Argosy Pictures wanted” thread mentioned supply dropping “gone wrong”, read on:

    Yes, just watched that (it was video clip) and it reminded me of Borneo and at a place called Long Jawi…. two stories…

    1. A Beverley airdrop onto the “A” missed the DZ entirely and went through the roof of the longhouse at Long Jawi and narrowly missed a supposed paraplegic who (I am laughing while I type this…) had laid on his kip for some time (years) being waited on hand and foot….. The MSP (Medium Stressed Platform – 2 Tons) went straight through the roof and the paraplegic was last seen running into the jungle. I suppose there are false benefit claimers in all walks of life, even in the Borneo Jungle…!!!

    I didn’t witness the above example but I certainly did see this “No. 2″….

    2. 110 Squadron on the day had positioned two Whirlwinds at Long Jawi ready for a re-supply run up to the Sarawak/Kalimantan border but the supply drop was late. Long Jawi was in a river valley and we positioned the choppers well up on the side of the slopes out of the way of the “A” (just in case….).

    When the drop packs used to be made up, the Ice-cream always went on last, at the top of the packs. We didn’t know when we got there at Long Jawi that the Beverley had gone U/S at Kuching but the MSP’s had already been positioned at the apron ready for loading at Kuching, had been loaded, and been taken off again…. but the frozen Ice-cream had already been stuck there on the top of the MSP’s.

    Long Jawi was remote and the Ghurkas based there were waiting “eagerly” for the Stores and Ice-Cream that they knew would be coming in on the airdrop.

    The Beverley after an hour or so was declared serviceable again and the Supply (ie: Catering) stuck some flat boxes of Baked Beans on top of the Ice-cream, re-loaded and the Beverley departed for Long Jawi which would be about 2 hours away from Kuching.

    The upshot was that as I watched (from a safe distance up the side of the hill – “Chicken Me”) the Beverley approached on his run-in which seemed O.K., as I’d watched these drops before….MSP’s always came out in singles… 1-Ton platforms would come out in multiples…. Anyway, he dropped the first one which landed close to the “A”.

    As usual the Ghurkas who always stood in a leaning attitude in a large circle, poised to race in; they raced in, stripped the platforms, threw the boxes into a Landrover and waited for the next MSP. The eager looks on their faces had to be seen to be believed, believe me…

    Round the cicuit went the Beverley, rolled out of the turn close in and dropped the second MSP… which candled…. Oh, dear….

    One shute opened, the other two did not, so the MSP is hurtling to the ground, off the “A” and the Ghurkas race in to be enveloped in a circular horizontal sheet of now liquid Ice-cream which hits all of them at belt height as the Baked Beans crush the Ice-cream packets. Well, you have never seen anything like it in your life ! Grinning and laughing Ghurkas, wiping their trousers and shirts, white with melted Ice-cream, licking their fingers and rolling around on the ground in hysterics.

    One of the more pleasurable and very happier moments from a little known but very dirty little conflict.

    P.S. I have some B&W pictures of Long Jawi and if I knew how to post them I’d put them up. Clues anybody ? Just use the “insert image” button ?

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    in reply to: Confrontation – Know your enemy, was it Soekarno ? #1204639
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    Dayglo, Zobbits & Mapping….

    Lauriebe, Pagen01 & WV-903….

    We did not have dayglo on the Whirlwinds used in Borneo on either 103, 110 or 230 Squadrons. Yes it would be handy to see the chopper if you went down and even though the Army Scouts carried the big orange balloons that you could inflate by pouring water on chrystals, the R.A.F. never saw fit to place those on their choppers. I did a rescue of an Army Scout crew and a District Officer who had been counting Punan heads…. Punans had the dreaded lurgi and at that time they were dying out. The first thing I saw up on a large plateau while we were searching for this Scout was the orange balloon above the treetops. It stood out like a dogs hind leg.

    Yes, Pagen01, you can’t lump them all together and I agree with what you say. The Groupies greeting at the 50th Anni at Seletar went down like a lead balloon , I can tell you. He wern’t very well liked that man. However, as regards the later drivers that arrived, we “Crewmen” got a bit twitchy towards the end of the two and a half year tour on choppers. You had to keep an eye on the fuel guage, tell them to open the filter when it was raining, make sure they didn’t shut down with the blade stops out and worst of all you had to keep an eye on the ASI for those beasts were limited to 85Kts at SL and it decreased as you got higher. My actual second helicopter flight in the interior of Borneo was a night pick-up from a place called Kapit, where I had been flown in by a Single Pioneer. The flight to Nanga Gaat was not pleasant as he oversped the machine and I had to tell him and believe me, he did not like it one bit. 103 Squadron had three attempts to curtail a driver who “breached airspeed” before the individual was posted to another place on ATC duties. Bad things like that did happen. I recall an argument when returning to Labuan one day, ahead was a very wide storm front and lashing rain….you could see it was bad before you got into it. The cloud cover was 8/8ths and we are talking about the “tropics”. The driver wanted to climb above this stuff (not knowing how high it went) and do a homing onto Labuan instead of my suggestion to land, shut-down and wait for it to pass, either that or follow the river to the coast. He had been there about 6 months. I ask you, fly above 8/8ths, above a storm, above total jungle with huge trees in a single engined helicopter with your No.1 enemy as power (“The Bristol Gnome”) and with very, very scratchy HF which often did not work. Would you want to do that ?

    He stayed low level over the river after the bunfight but said he was going to report me…. The outcome of that was that when we got back to Labuan he went running to see the Flight Commander about me, blurted out what he had in his mind as I strolled leisurely in after him…. The Flight Commander (from Rhodesia) signalled me to stay out and as I shut the door, he smiled at me and said, “I’ll look after this…[and used my first name]”. He was definitely one of “the” good ones.

    I can recall the PR Canberras coming into Labuan in late 1960 and early 1961 while I was detached there from Changi and them doing mapping runs over the interior of Borneo. As early as that, somebody must have known what the British Government policy was going to be with Sarawak and Sabah and the likelihood of subsequent events. Even so, most of our Operational topographical maps of the border areas in 2nd and 3rd Divisions had “white gaps” where topo information was missing. They tried “shadowing” the valleys in a darker green where there was topo info but it didn’t help much.

    Know your enemy: “inadequate maps”……

    RPM, FF, TGT…
    http://www.electranewbritain.com

    in reply to: Confrontation – Know your enemy, was it Soekarno ? #1205572
    RPM, FF, TGT…
    Participant

    XP358 on a hillside in Sabah…

    Lauriebe,

    Mentioned in 1972, hey ? Well I guess that it would take that long a time to repair the beast since November 1967. The fuselage frames must have been bent and the underfloor structure deranged afterthe belt it took on attaching itself to the hill. After I dragged the driver out (he had his shoulder harness on “relax” and had knocked himself out on the coaming)…quite dazed he was…more like threw him to the ground…I pressed the fire switches just to make sure and that was the last interest I had in XP358.

    The trees were about 35 to 40 foot high on that hillside and XP358 chopped them down as she went it. She also chopped her own tailboom off in the process and as I had told the driver to put it down hard to stop us rolling back off the hill, the front legs were broken off as well. There were no blades left, just stubs. It all happened in seconds from the run-down of the turbine which I called, to being a repository on the side of a hill, ten seconds at the most….the driver was in a daydream.

    I saw him years later at Gutersloh, never acknowledged him at all. Very poor show. If he’s reading this, he will know.

    A personal observation:

    We started getting some real cowboys through in the last year that I was on 110 Squadron, the R.A.F. was scratching for pilots and what we got were not what we expected. The learning curve was high but being young junior “officers” they did not take too kindly to being told what to do from old hands on the Squadron especially from SNCO’s who wanted to remain “alive”. This led to some conflicts.

    When today we talk about CRM and managing a flight properly, that was unheard of in those days in the R.A.F.. Class distinction got in the way quite often and on another forum I have seen a term used by a Royal Air Force Officer who calls himself “Pontius Navigator”, which is demeaning, degrading and everything else which gets peoples backs up…. the term is “Airman Tendencies” which I never heard in my time in the R.A.F., so it must be one of those “secret” terms used by officers.

    I recall that the last totally demeaning term that I heard was at Seletar on a parade where the C.O. of Seletar (a Group Captain) addressed the assembled parade and all the assembled ladies who had come to watch on the occasion of the Royal Air Force’s 50th Anniversary….. a joyous occasion….

    As he welcomed the crowd, he said in a stentorian voice:

    “Officers and their Ladies, Senior NCO’s and their Wives, Airmen and their Women….. welcome to this 50th Anniversary…” etc. etc…

    My then wife was disgusted and rightly so, it spelt the end of the relationship with the Royal Air Force….. The man was an idiot but that is the way that Officers used to carry on. Maybe they still do, I don’t know. If you took them to task then, you were said to have a “chip on your shoulder”…what rot.

    In those days, “Know your Enemy” meant the Air Force itself for the disharmony that there was…I read that it is still there so what have they learned ?

    RPM, Fuel Flow, TGT…
    http://www.electranewbritain.com

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