Fake!
Look at the damage behind the cockpit, not least the virtual loss of the fin and rudder and the plane was landed like this by an injured pilot who survived combat only to die after crash landing ??? – No chance. Furthermore the lack of fin and rudder would have rendered the machine incapable of controlled flight, least of all a survivable landing. Control runs would undoubtedly have been destroyed or at the very least badly affected. From what i know about the 109, they needed all of their minimal fin and rudder especially on take off and landing, so a controlled descent without is wholly improbable. Happy to be proved wrong if this is a genuine pic.
A different Angle!
Great to view and thank goodness the significance of this film was recognized.
It makes one wonder what else is hidden away in attics waiting to be discovered, and sadly what may have already been chucked away. In black and white it would have been impressive, colour some how makes it seem more recent.
So far as i am aware this is a new project built from scratch. Google “Percival Mew Gull” pictures will show a cockpit with said spade grip. Proctors generally had a spade on the left with stick to the right, or a single spade for the pilot only.
Colours
As a result of the Proctor rebuilds i have met a gentlemen who wishes to remain nameless until such time he reveals his project, suffice to say and adding to the East Anglian Percival restorations in hand (two Proctors and 1 x Q6) he has an advanced airworthy Mew Gull replica in his shop. We were talking colours earlier this year and yes you have guessed, it will be red and gold! Not for me to reveal more, but i do know that the fuselage is completed and the wings well advanced. Our contribution is a spare Proctor spade grip which we collected from Sweden with the Mk 3.
Neville Shute
Indeed it was a Proctor V that he flew to Australia. This would of course been fitted with standard cable actuated drum brakes. These are ok providing they are well adjusted but are prone to brake fade. My father used to comment when operating GTC that braking was her only real vice special attention was required on a cross wind landing which ideally were to be avoided where possible. Now days of course we have disc brakes, these transform braking action compared with drums, the Vega Gull that visited us at Oakley recently has this mod. We are looking into the same conversion for both the Mk V and Mk 3, ok not original specification, but all neatly hidden away inside the spats and a mod that i can see us being thankful for as we operate the Proctors in years to come. I have a good picture of the man himself complete with Trilby just like Mr Percival, and leaning against the wing.
If i can locate it i will post.
Bad Luck ????
Look at Sally B’s overall record, years flown, shows attended both here and abroad, total these together, and divide by engine issues- think that says it all.
I drive on average 900-1100 miles per week all across the UK looking after customers from my various companies. In the last three years i have had one windscreen replaced (large M6 flying stone) sorry failed to get its reg! This year already i have two new screens, within three weeks of each other and only this week collected another big chip that will likely result in a further replacement. Bad luck or poor maintenance?? I have every respect for the B17 Team and their engineers, its bad luck nothing more, the pendulum will swing and we will see her go into a prolonged period of reliable serviceability.
It cannot help having to work in all weathers outside keeping her in fine fettle, is it not time that a fund raising effort was started to build a hanger for her at Duxford. I see a nice new hanger complete with visitors room and her history from build date to present displayed on a wall, with an elevated walk way around the hanger allowing visitors to see her from above both during maintenance and in the winter when dormant. erhaps all these so clled B17 “Experts” would like to think about this and put some money towards this, i am no expert on B17 matters and would happily make a contribution to a very worth while cause.
More Pics Of My Father With Flying Boats
Thanks all you guys and girls for your interest, My father had just finished with Aquila airlines flying Short Solents. He was an avid photographer i have a lot of B/W shots taken on his travels, some in Southampton, but most abroad, Capri, Genoa and Funchal. If there is interest out there i will digi photo or scan them and post. One of my fathers friends also ex Aquilla and still with us carried an 8 mm cine camera on the Solents, he has fantastic never published or shown colour film of Solent operations. Clips include a low level positioning flight from Southampton to Lisbon looking from the cockpit with the wing and float and two grumbling Hercules engines as the sound track, all framed by the snowy alps as they flew low level with the high peaks above!! Another clip a couple of minutes, shows a Solent rounding a headland at Funchal and alighting right in front of the camera operator all in colour. loads of spray from the blue seas as the Solent settles then swings around for the berthing buoy. Flags flying from the cockpit and the crewman in the bow hatch with buoy hook to hand clad in immaculate whites and peaked cap, just fantastic times and REAL aviating!!!
Lucky!
By good fortune the pole appears just to have missed the leading edge slot, had this been smashed what are the chances of landing safely a tricky enough type with asymmetrical slot operation?? My guess and i am no expert (rather be repairing wood and fabric) is the damage is fairly minor and relatively easily repaired though at what cost? The full facts will come out in due course re said pole, lets all be thankful that it ended as it dis and both pilot and machine live to fly another day.
Superb!
Can’t really add anything to what has already been said. A superb effort by all involved and a national treasure for the Canadians in remembrance of all her sons who flew and died in this type, not forgetting their ground crews. The expression on the elderly gentlemens face as he stands along side a main wheel leaning on it for support says it all!
Shooting Abroad
Certainly if you look closely at some parts of the dog fighting scenes you will glimpse “Very Un English” landscapes below, from memory brown and arid, presumably Spain!
Camera?
I can only agree with other comments, these are some of the best pictures i have seen posted. Please share your secret with the forum, what type of camera do you use, and are you an experienced photographer with tips you can share. These are just great – all credit to you and thanks for posting.
Proctor Discovery
A trip to inspect her is arranged for the 1st May. Its definitely a Proctor, sitting in an out building and substantially complete, covered with years of accumulated dust. I will post pictures of her following the visit, right now for obvious reasons we are keeping the find quiet until we have had a chance to negotiate a price with the owner and arrange transport back to England. If we are successful in our quest, this will a great result, with a third Proctor joining the other two at our Essex workshop. What i am prepared to say is she is not a Mk 3 or V. Pictures to follow after the coming bank holiday weekend! Very exciting news i think you will agree.
Great She’s Staying in the UK
I agree with Rivet, even if brand new Spitfires were built today like the FW 190’s in Germany i would still travel miles to see one fly. Agreed that an original example (quote) has provenance and history that no new build can begin to match, its a Spitfire none the less and no less worthy then its original sisters. Would you expect to see new builds parked well away from originals at Legends simply because they are new, i think not. Correct me if i am wrong but i believe the late Tommy Sopwith was so impressed with a new build Sopwith type back in the 80’s so close was it to his originals, that he personally sanctioned the next production number from the last built, 70 odd years before. What would R.J think about the Spitfire scene were he alive today – i wonder!!
Still There.
i was at Coventry on the 9th April and she was parked outside the classic flight hanger, complete and looking fit to fly! May have moved on since then anyone know for certain?
Other Percival Factories
Hills and Sons of Trafford Park Manchester were sub contracted to build Proctors 1, 2 3 and 4 variants, though not sure if this was all of them or a percentage only. These were transported by road to Barton for flight testing and onward despatch to their respective service units. The main Luton factory built Mosquitos during the war, with the civil Mk 5 Proctor built there until around 1947, followed by the Prentice and Prince series of aircraft.