Those were the days!
Proctor V followed by Bristol 170 superfreighter Silver City Lydd ferryport to Le Touquet, Prentice Gibralter to White Waltham, then a Hornet Moth. My big regret is never getting on board one of the Short Solents of Aquila that my late father co piloted. Cherokee 235 now with Proctors to look forward to again!
Help Needed
Can anyone out there shed light on a possible overall dark blue scheme for the Mk 3 Proctor in RAF / Navy service. Its quite clear that KEX was an overall dark navy blue after wearing camoflage and before receiving her civiliain scheme in the early late 40’s early 50’s. On the port side we have revealed the RAF serial LZ 791 in silver on the blue. The character size is identical to the starboard letters which are also visible but black on a green back ground. All over the airframe the blue is evident who can help us with this puzzle or better supply picture proof? I believe the Navy had a number of Mk 4’s did they also operate 3’s. Any help much appreciated.
Airworthy Proctors
In addition to those UK examples mentioned OGE a Mk 3 is resident at Biggin, rebuilt but awaiting final assembly when the owner decides. In New Zealand there are two airworthy Mk V’s and one Mk I rebuilt as a Vega Gull look alike with sloping windshield and larger cabin windows. We should not forget the Gull variants that fly one here in the UK a Vega, and two examples in Australia. So within a number of years the airworthy population should be in the region of 11 flyers and add to that the Q6. Can anyone else add to this list of flyers?
Living History
Quite fantastic pictures and a technicolur throwback to those dark war years. Praise indeed to the team behind Liberty Belle in making the massive effort in getting her across the pond for Legends, no mean feat when you consider the finances and distance involved. I am looking forward to seeing her this coming weekend and admiring her. Living in Suffolk i am surrounded by memories of the American occupation with old bases aplenty and its fitting that the “Belle” is here to display at Legends and fly over some of the old stations. My late father was an evacuee, from 43 to 45 and told me how as a 14 year old lad he witnessed the 1000 bomber raids forming overhead Suffolk a spectacle that both frightened and left him with a lifelong memory. Lets pray the weather gods will be kind this coming weekend and a great spectacle for all takes place.
Picture ???
All historic fans are waiting for the pictures, you did bring your camera ????
As luck would have it my commute each Friday takes me from Hemel Hempstead right past Duxford on route to B St Edmunds,my eta today 18-00 hours, please put her to bed after then!
Jules – Duxford
I have read with interest the WW 2 tales related by Jules, i hope he feels well enough to make Duxford. With a potential 3 airworthy B17’s to drool over, the scene would not be complete without a vet like him to view the aircraft, possibly even fly in one, and certainly i hope to comment maybe briefly on the PA system on his service memories!. I have no contact details for him, for those who do and may wish to pass this on. I would be honoured to fund his trip across the pond and associated accomodation requirements. Its not a spur of the moment offer, but a real wish to give a man like him the pleasure once again of seeing his former mounts and to share in the excitement and spectacle that only Legends offers. The clock is ticking, its people like Jules who secured the freedom we enjoy today, their appearance at Flying Legends is part of the “Legend”. We need to assist and get as many of them to the show before we regret not having made the effort. Happy to help, i’am lucky to have time on my side,the Proctor restorations are progressing fine and if it means completing them 3 months later then planned for the pleasure of Jules being with us,so what.
KEX Restoration Starts
Both HTE Mk V and KEX Mk 3 will be positioned into a single workshop by mid June for restoration to flight. We have set 2012 as our deadline, if things go well it may be a year earlier. A full time woodworker has been found and is raring to get stuck in, he already has three rebuilt aircraft to his credit. Pictured is the nose cowell from KEX now stripped of four layers of paint. Small dents have been fettled and filled, and the complete assembly primed, ready for top coat, yet to be decided civil or original RAF colours. Engine side panels, top and lower cowell are receiving the same treatment right now. Once the two Proctors are united i will post further pictures as the rebuild gains pace.
A Mk 1, with three bladed prop, 1940 B of B colours, all original andjust as R.J designed
Flawed Design
I am sure i have read in a number of WW2 publications that more 109 airframes were lost in take off or landing accidents then in combat. Like most tail wheel aircraft, the ideal scenario is take off and land right into wind on a large open airfield with loads of space. When things start to go wrong, there is a much higher chance of recovery undamaged, not so when operating from a limited width grass or hard runway. Ground looping is highly likely, and add a cross wind component, with the small rudder,things can and do go wrong in a blink. These aircraft will bite at near walking pace, flying stops only when you come to a halt and switches off. Proctor 1 G-IAWA was lost in France in 82, victim of a crosswind, obstacles close to the relativley narrow landing strip, and probably inexperience on type.
Hi Wieesso
I have Mk 3 G-AKEX, recovered from Sweden November last after 55 years stored in a barn. She is 97% complete, and if all my plans come together, starts restoration around May to flight status. The intention is to return her to full military spec, just as she was in RAF service from 43 to 47. As a child i flew many hours in a Mk V. Apart from the floatplane variant, do you have a special interest in Proctors? Always good to know of other Percival fans out there, great aircraft, and still to my mind much under rated.
Blackbushe Early Sixties
I am not able to help with names of management there at the time you ask, however in regards to characters, my late father Symon Biddulph was certainly just that. After leaving Aquila Airways in the late fifties, he was a member of both Blackbushe and West London flying club at White Waltham. From 62 to 64 he operated Proctor V G-AGTC a regular site at both locations. As a young lad we flew many trips in TC from both fields, and in later years i learnt more of my fathers exploits. Two incidents that come to mind are as follows. In about 57 father was co pilot on an Aquila Short Solent and rostered on a return from Maidera to Southampton. For what ever reason the return was on a Sunday, with only had crew on board. They learned whilst on the island that an American aircraft carrier was at anchor further down the island, and decided to beat it up on departure. On getting airborne, instead of climbing for altitude, they kept it low and fast, following the coast below cliff top level, rounding a headland to see the carrier at ease on a calm sea. They decided it would be a good idea to buzz her, and came screaming in at 150 ft right along the flight deck. Looking out of the cockpit window crew were seen running all over the place, probably to gun positions, i bet they thought world war three was starting! On another occasion Symon was air testing a B170 Super Freighter from Eastleigh on a Monday morning. She had a new starboard engine that was being tested. On climb out there was a bang, and the engine seized in a spectacular fashion (loose oil pipe) and they were forced back on one. After arrival the airport was beseiged by irate Southampton housewifes who’s Monday wash had been covered with drops of Mr Castrols finest aviation grade engine oil, all over their sparkling whites! Silver City had to pay for the damage. Another exploit that comes to mind was after dark landings at Waltham. The trick my father said was to stooge around north of the airfield and wait for an express train to come through on the main London to Bristol line. As soon as one appeared, this acted as a perfect marker to the airfield boundary, and a let down could commence aiming for the huge black unlit expanse of Walthams grass. On short finals at around 50 ft landing lights were switched on. Imagine my fathers horror when doing so to see two or three mushroom pickers running for their lives as the Proctor appeared out of the night sky. What the mushroom pickers thought, he never found out. An additional landing check had to be added to TC as she threw a lot of oil from the VP mechanism. On turning finals father leant forward with a rag, poking it through the clear vision panel to wipe the windshield for a better view for landing. Memorable days indeed!
Brawdy 1976
I was on summer camp with 342 squadron ATC in that blazing summer of 76.
We got the usual flights in Chipmunks, and i bagged 20 minutes in an Air Sea Rescue Whirlwind chopper. Brawdy was then operational with Hawker Hunters.
Some days before the camp finished we watched a Hastings land and park up on the ramp. The next day we were told at breakfast that flights would be made throughout the day, and 140 names were put in a cap, and drawn out. I was lucky and was amongst the first of i think cadets 40 to fly. Sitting inside we watched one engine after the other haul itself to life. One of the port engines i forget which ,turned and turned and ejected some great flames, before it expired. Imagine the disappointment to be told it had gone “tech” and there would be no flying. She was still on the ramp three days later when we left for London. I do remember the steep haul up the fuselage isle, rather like a DC3. The closest i ever got to flying in a big four engined piston, ah well!
Dakotas Rest
I read about this some years back in one of the UK’s other aircraft magazines, it was most certainly Northolt, not Heathrow. What was interesting is that the crew and passengers all descended into the loft, down the loft ladder onto the landing, then down stairs and out by the front door, none the worse for their
experience so it seems!
Safely Back
Pleased to report that KEX is back safely on home soil, after her 57 year absence.
we unloaded her early hours last Saturday, and she is tucked away in her
storage building until spring 08, when things will start to happen.
Looking inside the port wing revealed a bemused Swedish mouse, who scarpered off further inside the wing, i trust he will escape and make friends with the locals! Good news is that the condition of the woodwork is better then initially thought, and professional opinion has been expressed and that as much as 85% could possibly be retained in the re build! Will post more pictures soon
Doug and cheap wine!
My father was operating his Mk V Proctor from White Waltham early sixties, and PPS looked after the maintenance. Tony Bianchi told me that his first flight was in the Mk V. My father had a bladder tank fitted in the centre section, where a bespoke long range tank would normally have been positioned on the V. This was filled with wine in France, and imported, Doug was in on the secret, and both he and father spent a good long hour late at night beneath the Proctor decanting it into bottles!