Severodvinsk,

” you are damn correct, I noticed it too. The front with the torpedohatches looks completely off-center… Doesn’ tseem to fit with the hullpart behind it… PS? “

I am pretty sure that the image is photoshoped. As evidence for this the image I’m posting shows what looks like use of the “Heal Tool” (blue circle and magnification) and poor cut+paste or “Extract” work. The red circle and elipse show the difference in the way that the sea water connects with the hull on the port side and on the area around the torpedo tubes. To me this looks unmistakeably like clumsy photoshoping.

That’s not a conclusive evidence of photoshopping. The changes you describe can be attributed to the slight waves bobbing in the harbor. I’ve been to China quite a few times and I’m familiar with both the lighting and the water conditions in their harbors.

Photoshopping don’t cover a range of pictures each taken with a slightly different angle, with consistent lighting angles in every one of them to begin with.

The pics are too intricately busy for PS, too many wires around, birds flying around and so on.

My guess is that they shoehorned a J-8II’s radar into FC-1 01 for testing, although it won’t be the final radar. The KLJ-10 radar for the FC-1 is likely to be related to the KLJ-1 radar of the J-8II, like a much more evolved version of it, so it should perform from equal to superior, and would have similar sizes and weights.

Those small subs look more like a DSRV, meant to rescue sub crews.

Thanks SK! The Russian site does not appear to be friendly with my wireless access.

I mean the first pic looks like a karaoke to me.

On the other pics, perhaps it’s engine trouble, with the dark smoke behind it. If this is tied with a recently published article, the plane in question could be Prototype 01, not the FC-1 01 as some people have said. This is probably old footage from that incident, which may have taken place years ago and is just being declassified. Probably part of the process of gradually declassifying the J-10, starting with the early mishaps (to show how brave, courageous and resourceful the people involved are in the face of adversity).

Reasons why I think SRBMs are used is because I don’t think cruise missiles are in the jurisdiction of the increasingly politically powerful and well funded 2nd Artillery, which effectively acts like an independent branch of the PLA. Cruise missiles, other than the seaborne ones, are in the jurisdiction of the PLAAF, whose budget is squeezed doing other things.

It kind of looks like it is CCTV’s. The buzzy tv interlacing pattern is consistent through out the picture. Note the smoky trail.

Sorry for posting this a second time …. :diablo:

Thanks a lot for that overview … but can You tell me anything about the situation for the Short range IR missiles ???

1. PL-8 (looks like a Phython III copy) … usualy seen under the outer wing pylons on the J-10 … also for J-8II

2. PL-9 I’m not sure but seems to be based on the PL-8 with some modifications, esp. the rear end !?

3. is there a new project under development ??? … something in the class of the ASRAAM, MICA, IRIS-T … ???

Thanks in advance, Deino 🙂

Jane’s did report that China is working on a missile with digital IR.

This pic of the J-11 in Shenyang’s office hall shows you an unidentified missile in the wing tips.