I put 250% capability relative to F-16 in price bracket.
You have already put Two SD-10 and Two PL-5 on each FC-1 to come at maximum range but where is the evidence that Su-30 with 8 BVR has that kind of range. Undersame condition SD-10 has 70KM range versus 50KM for R-77. and WVR does not count because in maximum missions there is no fuel left for dog fights. Its only BVR and escape type missions not entangle with other fighters.

Su-30 can hold 8 BVR, at least 6 R-77s and 2 R-27Rs. Fire control system limits it to using 6 R-77s but it can carry another pair of R-27Rs.

FC-1 can theoritically carry four SD-10s, as the pylons in the mid and inner wing appear strong enough for such. It is also possible that the plane can carry another two SD-10s in the centerline, using the same arrangement in the F-CK-1 Ching Kuo, one in the front and another in the back. You can also use in theory, a rack like that used in Hornets, which enables you to carry two BVRAAMs in one hardpoint.

50, 60, 70km range figures for missiles are useless since you will hardly expect to get a kill at that range. NEZs for missiles are much shorter, and planes are much more likely to shoot within the 20-30km range to assure greater chances of a kill.

You’re quoting useless information. Mach numbers are essentially useless in air combat, as most air combat occur below transonic speedes. Mach numbers are only attained with clean, meaning unarmed configuration and never amount to over a long duration of time due to melting of the skin.

Also, most dogfights occur within a 4G to 7G range; only desperate nitwits go 9G since the pilot blackening out and having his brain and senses mushed by G forces is the last thing you would want in a dogfight.

that text from aeronautics.ru came from 1997 Jane’s article. It’s obsolete. It is with regards to the SMK upgrade which is eventually canceled.

Apart from the FBW, the avionics of the plane was based from the N001VEP radar and fire control system of the Su-30MK2.

Only phased array radars can lock on to multiple targets. The Bars also TWSs 15-20 targets and quality of the track is superior. Don’t say “there’s no evidence” when it’s pretty obvious that your figures are blatantly made up.

TWS is not locking on. Even in TWS. The amount of targets you can lock on is limited and definitely less than the targets you got scanned. For the BARS it is currently 4 to 6 targets. Most slotted array radars can lock to 2 or 4 targets, some can manage 6-8, the latter most likely the APG-63 on the F-15 and the RDYs on Mirage 2000-5.

if you believe that crobato…. then how come you argue in the other thread that light fighters like the FC-1 can hold up to the Su-3x’s ??

Holdup in the sense as being ownership sense, not in the fighting sense. All three types could fight each other just as well equally. But you don’t have the price advantage of the single engined fighter, nor its lower costs of maintenance. At the same time, you don’t have the range and cruising speeds of the large fighter, or even the power of its radar. For that matter, medium fighters are nearly as expensive as the big fighters like MiG-29Ms vs. Su-30s, or Super Hornets vs. Strike Eagles. As a matter of fact, medium fighters even struggle in range and payload against small fighters (Hornet or Fulcrum vs. Viper).

Perhaps you should check on the epitomy of medium fighters, the JSF.

Other medium fighters include the MiG-29 and the F-18 Hornet. See the service records.

I’m not really a big fan of the medium since they don’t seem to hold up against their bigger brothers like Fulcrum vs. Flanker, or Hornet vs. Tomcat or Hornet vs. Eagle. At the same time, they don’t seem to have that much of a range, combat, or payload advantage over smalls like Hornet vs. Viper or Fishbed vs. Flogger.

50-50 chance is not a good idea ehh, so after all FC-1 will have a good chance of shooting down a M2K, Mig-29, Su-30MKI or whatever?

So can an F-CK-1, LCA, Golden Eagle, J-10 and whatever. Give them all an AMRAAM, MICA, TC-2, SD-10, or R-77.

I’ve thought about this issue for a while, and the small jet, with RCS reduction measures, networking support, ARH BVRAAMs, helmet sighting with wide offbore AAMs, can be extremely potent in the battlespace.

harder but not invisible, and the Su-30MKI for such a reason has an IRST and it`s size is not of a Airbus 340 😀 and speed also counts when you trying to locate some thing in the air and the Su-30MKI is faster for at least 600km at full speed.
The FC-1 has very few advantages and none is of definitive importance, the Su-30MKI better radar and avionics will simply erease any advantage enjoy by the FC-1 size, and in AAM the new generation of ASTRA and R-77 Ramjet version will erease them further.

And what makes you think that the FC-1 cannot take advantage of future AAMs too? And the FC-1 will have French-Italian avionics, you’re talking about radars in the caliber of the APG-66 MLU and the Thales RDY to better.

also the F-15 versus A-4 or F-5s can defeat them with ease it is a myth that that nimble fighters are better just by size, the F-15 has shown since 1974 that it ruled the rooster by numbers not by size and the Su-30MKI has better numbers than the FC-1, the F-15 has a appalling kill rate versus the F-5 that if we recalled you will se that the F-15 size did not helped the F-5 to shoot down F-15s at all

The F-15 and F-14 has shown they can be shotdown by F-5s and A-4s in Aggressor training exercises. The more the bigger jet is involved in WVR, the more likely it can be shot down. Note that the F-5s and the A-4s do not have BVR. Small jets with BVRAAMs and HMS supported by AWACS and datalinking can be frightening if faced in numbers. Try the JAS-39 Gripen. That small jet can also carry the Meteor.