Quite to the contrary, i think sound archives are an invaluable tool to researchers and enthusiasts I am doing my best to include as many as possible in the project I am working on about the USAAF’s 79th. Fighter Squadron.
😀 Yep, definitely fakes, there’s no chicken visible anywhere! 😀
Yes, BlueNoser, I saw the article and I’m glad to see him get some recognition for all of his hard work. I am hoping it will eventually allow him the chance to publish all of the information he has, so little was used in “When The Soldiers Came To Town.”
I loved the museum in Savannah, I was there for the dedication of the 20th. Fighter Group display, which sadly is not one of the better displays there. One of the highlights of my life was when I was allowed to walk over and touch the Me-163 along side of 20th.FG ace Harley Brown.
Speaking of Lt. Col. Brown, his A-2 just sold to a friend of a friend on E-Bay. I was sad to see it not go to a musuem but it is in the collection of someone who really cares, which is almost as good.
Yes, it does indeed though yours is alot cleaner. To be honest I don’t think the 79th. had any really decent artists in their ranks the art on Reichard’s jacket was pretty primitive. I couldn’t find any of the other shots showing the exact duplicates but here’s a very similar one being worn by Lt. Donald Smith. He is having a conversation with Capt. James Kirby, also of the 79th. FS.
Here’s a bad photo I took of Capt. James Reichard, 79th. Fighter Squadron/20th. Fighter Group at the Mighty Eighth AF Museum in Savannah, Georgia during the 1999 20 FG reunion. He’s wearing his wartime A-2. I have photos of other 79th. pilots wearing jackets with almost identical art on the back so I would imagine someone created a template of a Mustang and it was used quite alot.
It took me a bit to dig these out, but here they are. The black and white is an original print, the color shot and enlargement were printed out for a display but were done from an original print. I also enlarged the figure’s face. Hope these help, let me know when the final product is ready to go!
Simon. Give me a little bit to go through my collection I have at least two wartime photos of the original “Cutie” one of which I think shows the nose art fairly well and is in color. I’ll scan and attach them in the next day or so.
Granted, there weren’t many 20th. Fighter Group P-38s with memorable nose art, but I’ve always found it rather odd that TFC chose this specific aircraft to portray, especially after having originally painted the aircraft in the “Happy Jack’s Go Buggy” livery.
:diablo: 😀 WILL THEY BE AT LEGENDS? 😀 :diablo:
Congrats, Kev!
I am at a loss as to what kind of thrill is to be had by stealing a war relic, God knows they can’t sell it for anything but scrap (heaven forbid). I’mfirm in the belief there is a special place in he** for people who do things like this.
I wish you the best of luck in recovering it!
Great to see she’s coming back together and man the Cub is looking good as well!
I personally have never felt any deeply-rooted anti-American sentiment on this forum, there’s some good natured ribbing now and then and some (often warranted) “Hollywood bashing” (i.e.: the recent thread concerning “The Few”), but I feel more at home, and more welcomed, here than I do in many of the forums I frequent that are American in origin – WIX being the exception to the rule.
Again, just my two cents worth, feel free to make change.
Once again I am stepping into a discussion rather late, but things have been hectic for me the past few days.
I feel we all have a duty to call them out, before false or misleading information becomes fact. Steve
I have to wholeheartedly agree with Steve on this point, there’s enough BS that has filtered through and taken hold – some of it placed there intentionally, some not. There are instances where the facts have become so obscured and revised that, once the true story is brought back to light, many consider it outright nonsense. I’ve seen the views of extremists from both sides of the coin slip into otherwise objective works and completley skew the whole thing, thus casting doubt on the integrity of an otherwise perfectly good resource. History is murky enough as is, no need to darken the brew, IMHO.
While I’m not one for out right confrontation, revisionists and those with their own agendas need to be singled out so that everyone can judge the value of their statements properly.
I don’t have anyone person in mind as I write this and I haven’t a clue as to who might have led to Setter’s original post, (nor do I really want to know,) but if a person isn’t adult enough to debate a point without resorting to some sort of tantrum or mud-slinging I am inclined to view their posts with a highly skeptical eye. Same goes for those who can’t back their statements up with either references or some sort of corroboration. Otherwise have the common courtesy to state it is your opinion or even an “educated guess”. I don’t think that’s too far beyond the realms of reason.
As, usual this is just my two cents, feel free to make change.
The man you spoke with was Jack Ilfrey, the former CO of the 79th. Fighter Squadron and an 8 kill ace. I knew him fairly well, he contributed much to the CD-Rom I am compiling on the squadron he commanded. Sadly he passed away in October of last year. The world may never see another individual of his like again.
The book you are refering to was “Peter Three Eight” by John Stanaway, Jack’s autobiography was “Happy Jack’s Go Buggy” and the group history is “King’s Cliffe”. The latter two are excellent reads, I haven’t read Mr. Stanaway’s book yet but it’s on my short list. The 20th. did originally fly P-38s and transitioned to P-51s in the summer of 1944. Jack had also flown a previous tour with the 94th. “Hat In The Ring” Squadron in North Africa.
The Locobuster moniker is a nod to the 20th., there were known as the “Locobusters” or the “Loco Boys” because of their prowess against rail traffic.
Paul contributed a number of his excellent shots for my CD-ROM. I’ll pass along your compliments. He has a studio in the Peterborough area, I believe he specializes in sports pics and the likes.
The 77th. Fighter Squadron were on detached service in Spartanburg for a few months in 1942, while under the command of Col. Barton Russell. They basically used Spartanburg Memorial Airport as a training facility before they moved on to Sarasota, Florida. Roger Wilkie, the man who wrote the section in the Spartanburg book, could tell you alot more about it than I can. I could put you in contact with him if you would like.
I’ll contact you via e-mail as soon as I post this.
Bluenoser, I wish I could take credit for those amazing photos but they are the work of an English photographer named Paul Young. His work is amazing, isn’t it?
Yes, I am aware of Bob Powell and his aircraft named for my current home. I’ve never met him, however. BTW, I have a friend who builds excellent model Mustangs, all in 352nd colors, check out his site at: http://www.352fgbluenosedmodels.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/index.html I hope to convince him to do a 20th. Fighter Group plane on of these days… 😉
I see you are from Spartanburg, I have a good friend there who contributed to a book about the military activity in that area during both World Wars, I contributed a few photos and some info on the section related to the 77th. Fighter Squadron’s short stay in your area. Check it out at: http://www.hubcity.org/nws_soldierbook.htm
Finally just a related photo of Maj. Miller and a Sgt. Miller (not related though the Sarge did date the Major’s sister in high school) at King’s Cliffe in September, 1944.