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    I think the article hits certain nails on the head:

    E.g.

    1. Anti-force support tactics i.e. shooting down tankers, AWACS etc.

    2. Flanker was always meant to be long range – USSR was after all a big place. Given size of T-50 it probably also has long range.

    US on the other hand hasn’t emphasised range since F-111. The assumption appears to be that tankers will be safe both in the air and in terms of safe airbases. This is fine for Iraq or Afghanistan or Serbia but not necessarily correct for a WWIII type scenario.

    I think where it fails is the numbers game – you need larger numbers to maintain sortie rates, maintain geographical coverage and maintain reserve requirements.

    In a WWIII type scenario, USA’s F-22 fleet is insufficient. Attrition and increased maintenance requirements means the fleet has a very short lifespan in a high tempo conflict.

    Furthermore having a mere 7 operational sqaudrons means that you either have to disperse the fleet in small numbers which dilutes concentration of force or you have to have theatres/area that are covered by less capable aircraft.

    Same will apply to J-20 and T-50 if they’re acquired only in small numbers.

    in reply to: Western Air Force bright spot – RAAF and Australian Army #2251958
    thobbes
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    As an Aussie, I don’t want nuclear subs/ships in my backyard. I couldn’t care less how effective they are.

    And that’s your average Australian’s opinion.

    Soryus with cruise missiles seem like the best option to me. Good range and great deterrent capability.

    Collins class were meant to have cruise missiles, but that capability got scrapped. What’s it with RAN and not loading up warships to their full potential (also applies to ANZAC frigates)?

    in reply to: Western Air Force bright spot – RAAF and Australian Army #2251999
    thobbes
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    Funny, Brazil and India to name just two think SSN’s is the better solution………..

    The Australian public is generally completely opposed to nuclear power of any sort.

    Conventional Japanese subs would probably be viewed as a great sign of national healing. Australian hicks might be opposed to it but the general public would not give a crap, unlike the acquisition of nuclear subs.

    Also Brazil and India want to pretend they’re super powers. SSKs fit here as a prestige program. It’s like Ghana wanting to build a nuclear reactor in the 1960s when it had sufficient hydro electric opportunities.

    Meanwhile the Japanese who have a very advanced and capable Navy are going for conventional submarines.

    But then they’re not just puffing themselves up whilst in reality the vast majority of their military is equipped with obsolescent rubbish.

    in reply to: Why China's air power does not seem threatening. #2252005
    thobbes
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    There’s the small matter of training pilots, ground crews etc as well as establishing sufficient air bases.

    A Spitfire or P-40 could operate off a very austere airfield and even dirt strips if necessary. A J-10 or F/A-18 cannot.

    Also modern fighter production is a lot more complicated these days due to vast number of avionics that require excellent quality control and are often time consuming to build. And doesn’t staff like composites need curing and also excellent quality control?

    There’s a lot more that can go wrong with a modern fighter in terms of quality.

    A WWII fighter’s only real avionics was a radio. Everything else was mechanical components.

    thobbes
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    It would be interesting. The MN will have (probably) two CVs, a CG and two DDGs plus some DDs and smaller warships. maybe two sqdrns of F-8s and two to threee sqdrns of SuEs. A VERY good (for the time) surface strike capability with the SuEs.

    Were all Super Etendards in service then or were some squadrons still using older Etendard IVs?

    in reply to: Why China's air power does not seem threatening. #2252043
    thobbes
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    Oh and it turns out J-31 is actually J-21:

    http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.co.nz/

    Makes sense as we’ve not seen J-22-J-30 and I doubt the Chinese would pull the same daft marketing gimmick USA pulled with F-35 (should’ve been F-25 with F/A-18E/F being F-24A/B).

    in reply to: Why China's air power does not seem threatening. #2252051
    thobbes
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    http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/3343/plaafupdate.jpg

    Thanks for the update. It still reveals an obsolete force with 54% comprising obsolete J-7, J-8 and Q-5. Add the JH-7 into the mix and that’s near 65% obsolete.

    700 modern fighters/attack aircraft is good for self defence but it’s insufficient for maintaining any large scale military conflict in North Asia.

    And by the time the old crates have been pensioned off, the earlier J-10s and J-11s will need replacing.

    FYI, JH-7A’s mk202s/WS-9s produce 91kn of thrust each, tornado’s mk103s produce 77kn each, with a MTOW of 28.5 tons and 28 tons respectively…
    Not exactly underpowered.

    But it’s definitely not a modern design per se, aerodynamically, although JH-7A does have early 4th gen avionics, and boasts a decent A2G suite, mostly standoff missiles of the KD-88 type.

    Cheers for update.

    The website you posted a link for states Air Force JH-7As are scheduled to be replaced by J-16 (Su-30MK equivalent). Doesn’t seem PLAAF are too enamoured with JH-7A. PLANAF is looking at new JH-7Bs to replace JH-7/JH-7A as well as some H-6 Badgers.

    in reply to: Why China's air power does not seem threatening. #2252061
    thobbes
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    Umm, isn’t this kind of intellectually dishonest comparison? Sure it may be hard for China to concentrate its fighters to one theatre, but apparently it’s not a problem for USA?

    Of course USA cannot concentrate fighters in one theatre. But it’s larger fleet means it can match or overmatch China’s fleet whilst still leaving a sizeable reserve.

    And the USA gets bolstered by whatever ally needs US help. And the North Asians offer sizeable capabilities and then the Australian lapdog throws in another reasonably modern fleet with force multipliers into the mix.

    I’m not sure what is the definition of ‘scary’ here what PLAAF is meant to be, however, looking at the trend it is certainly somewhat discomforting. If you look for example PLAAF vs ROCAF in 1996 or so, it was very obvious that China had almost no ability to threaten Taiwanese skies, in fact Taiwan might have even achieved air superiority over Taiwan strait all by itself in case of all-out war: fast forward to present day and the situation is much changed, with PLAAF having undergone massive modernisation whilst development of Taiwanese air power has been almost stale over that period.

    RoCAF is a bit of an exception as it’s under a non-declared arms embargo. And they are looking into upgrading F-16s and F-CK-1s for time being.

    RoCAF is also very close to mainland China – this means force projection tools are not as essential as say a slugfest with Japan.

    Maybe the PLAAF is not all-powerful quite yet, but obviously the balance of power in SEA has been moving to their favour.

    Totally agree.

    in reply to: Why China's air power does not seem threatening. #2252108
    thobbes
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    lol what is your point? war is not fight in numbers alone

    As stated China is lacking in force multipliers and force projection tools.

    It’s lacking in a modern air force with a lot of the force being obsolete.

    500 j7 alone is more dangeorus than most air force can put in the sky.

    And 500 J-7s have extremely limited range and are thus limited to short range defence missions. Which is what the MiG-21F-13 and MiG-21MF’s main roles were – take down USAF B-47s and B-52s.

    Great example of how numbers can be irrelevant.

    in reply to: Western Air Force bright spot – RAAF and Australian Army #2252123
    thobbes
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    SSN alswould face considerable political hurdles as well as being stupidly expensive to run.

    Right now only nuclear reactor in Australia is a research reactor at Lucas Heights in Sydney.

    in reply to: Why China's air power does not seem threatening. #2252701
    thobbes
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    I dont think all of them scraped. UBK as are late 90s.

    That adds a handful of airframes.

    US has alot of commitements like baby sit EU and Middleast. and China lack of threat is not due to lack fighters. it is some totally different reasons.

    US commitments to Europe is 150 fighters plus rotational figher deployments. That leaves 2,000 odd combat airfcraft for other things.

    US European commitment is in decline – just recently USAFE lost another fighter squadron.

    120 for JH-7 is too low.

    You provide a link to a number showing more JH-7s and I’ll believe it.

    in reply to: Why China's air power does not seem threatening. #2252707
    thobbes
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    How many Y-20s are in service? 0
    How many Il-76s is China planning on fielding? 50 (ab out 25-ish in service now)

    How many C-17s does USA have NOW : >220
    How many C-5s does USA have NOW: 90-ish reduced to 52 C-5M.

    The number of tankers in PLAAF service is a joke – maybe 10 HU-6 and a similar number of Il-78s.

    in reply to: Western Air Force bright spot – RAAF and Australian Army #2252715
    thobbes
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    Those Japanese Soryu class do sound impressive.

    in reply to: F-35 News & Multimedia thread #2252718
    thobbes
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    Prematurely??? I think that is your personal opinion and not one supported by any fact………..

    It was a 2 year probation and was cancelled after just 1 year or so.

    [Sorry, it has a long ways to go and the trend continues to go downward……..

    You do realise that those figures are from USAF itself and it’s what they’re planning to be spending once the aircraft is service en masse?

    Plus, that doesn’t even consider Capability vs Cost. Which, is a very important factor in itself.

    Depends on what capabilities you need.

    Yes, and everybody loves to talk about the high price of the F-35. Yet, seemed to forget the high price in general of current fighters! The F-16 Blk 60, Typhoon, Rafale, etc. etc.

    F-16C/D Blk 50 is still a good buy and for your average air force JAS-39C/D is excellent for air policing.

    As for your other points, I’m not going to bother answering them.

    You are happy to state France can’t deliver a squadron of Rafales in 4 years or that USAF is always wrong (e.g. F-35 cost or number of F-15 upgrades) but anything negative about F-35 you dismiss as an unknown or an opinion.

    If it’s anything positive about F-35, you regard it as gospel truth.

    It’s ridiculous and juvenile and you come across sounding like an 8 year old girl in love with some boy band.

    in reply to: Why China's air power does not seem threatening. #2252729
    thobbes
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    Not ignoring anything….Your looking at one side of the coin and then spinning it in the most negative light.

    You are indeed ignoring things like AWACS or transports (necessary for redeploying a fighter squadron or delivering and resupplying forward units).

    As for negative, the Chinese have done wonders in upgrading their obsolete force. But they’re still miles behind – the J-7 is still one of their most numerous fighters and it’s useless as anything but as basic point defence fighter against low tech opponents.

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