Sound interesting….I have no info about them yet.
Herbert
Just an update:
There are three Ar 196 left…..and only one has still it´s instrument panel installed. The one an the NASM Washington.
Wow, didn´t expect that, what a challenge.
So still searching for cockpit pictures and drawings.
All the best,
Herbert
Someone of the National Naval Aviation Museum around?
Here is a progress report:
I figured out, that the panel in the showcase is a replica, the dimensions seem not to be correct.
So my next try is a request I´ve sent to the National Naval Aviation Museum
in Pensacola…..anyone in the forum who is related with the museum?
I asked them, if they might be so kind to take one specific measure of the instrument panel.
If anyone of the staff would be ready to climb into the cockpit it would be easy to measure that specific length and I could get my basic drawing to the right proportion.
Let´s see, if I have a chance.
Herbert
Thanks, you are right. I´ll ask them.
Here are good pictures:
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?aircraft_genericsearch=Arado%20Ar-196&distinct_entry=true
All the best,
Herbert
Ar 196 instrument panel
Thanks folks
Hmm, if I can´t find that panel, I might ask the US museums, if they´d let me take some measurements of the aircraft´s panels :rolleyes:
I guess, I might need some personal contact to them, can everybody help.
Regards,
Herbert
Thanks Chris
But I doubt, that they would let me climb into their plane to take measurements of the instrument panel. I´d rather have a chance with the panel in the showcase.
Regards,
Herbert
Hello Barnstormer
Thanks, I asked them, but they only have one Ar 96 trainer aircraft.
Regards,
Herbert
Should be the same material as the Spitfire instrument panels.
Originally they are also red/brown.
Some name it Paxolin, Hadex, Pertinax, etc…..
Herbert
Hmm…as far as I can see, all screws and the box hiding the electric connections are not the correct.
Regards,
Herbert
How many of those would you need before one should fly?
Well, we have now two complete FW 190 D
Let´s say they would fly. I´d guess in about twenty years both will be gone. Like the last airworthy He 111 (Casa) did or the last airworthy Mosquito,…
Especially the FW 190 Dora was a breed built in desperation. The FW 190 with it´s radial engine couldn´t match with high flying bombers and fighters so they put a bomber´s engine (from Ju 88) and put it to the FW 190 airframe. To compensate the extra weight they pasted a piece of fuselage between the front and rear part.
Regards,
Herbert
I have the feeling that the over-sophisticated aircrafts of the war were not made to fly for years like the civil planes.
As example they pressed every HP out of the engine on the cost of durability.
So engine failures or fires were daily routine.
Who would produce a civil aircraft that would costs many lifes of student pilots like the Bf 109 did.
And when I take a look at the Bf 109 black 6 and red 7, the latter only for some months in the air before crashing because of a “fatal but common” Bf 109 behaviour, I´d rather see them in the museum.
Regards,
Herbert
Too rare to fly in my opinion.
Also in my opinion rare warbirds like The FW 190 Dora (two examples still complete) shouldn´t be made airworthy.
First, they would have to change most of the parts to replicas
and second, they are not easy to handle. I hear too much of accidents and engine failures on warbirds that I´d like to risk the rare ones.
Regards,
Herbert
The more I look at that picture I could imagine, that it´s really one with the filled slot for the parking break handle.
When you compare the position of the handle at the MIG picture it´s exactly at the position of the scratched part with complete loss of colour.
So the engraving could been made afterwards.
To be sure, we´d need a look to the inner of the shaft.
Regards,
Herbert
You welcome. By the way you have a great webpage.
Here´s a good picture of a MIG grip.
Regards,
Herbert
Interesting identification feature…but what did the Soviets have against cap head screws?
Interestingly, these correct cap head screws weren´t anymore produced after the war. That´s why the restorers need to take flat screws like these at the grip. For my instrument panels I use replicas of the correct screws.
Here some detail pictures of my grip:
Not much difference, but the head tops are bent.
The MIG 15 and 17 grips needed a slot for the hand break lever.
Either this one was used in another type of soviet aircraft, or the slot is filled and overpainted, as I have seen before. Anyway I´ve never seen a Luftwaffe grip with the safety bracket painted in red.
Regards,
Herbert