Didn’t “After the battle” magazine get two names removed from a war memorial for the same reason a few years ago?
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Some charter operators have been doing it for years.
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Beauty is obviously in the eye of the beholder….
BUT
1) 767…. ?? – the stretched versions were okay, but the stubby -200, come on… “Ugly Betty” or what !!
Being qualified on the 767 saved my job so it will always look beutiful to me!
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No surprises from me….
1) Trident 3B
2) Comet 4C
3) Super VC-10
The surprise is that it wasn’t
1) Trident 1
2) Trident 2
3) Trident 3!!!:D
Mine are
1) 767
2) 757
3) A330
Only cos I can’t have 7
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whilst not strictly commercial aviation, there is a video on youtube of a US Navy Jet on a carrier which sucked a guy into the engine….it’s is a remarkable piece of footage and although he was battered and bruised he survived because his helmet got stuck. I think there was a documentary on him as well and that can be found on youtube also.
That is shown in ramp training, to little effect in my experience!
The aircraft was an A-6 Intruder and the guys helmet got stuck on some guide vanes in the air intake. There have been several surviors of ingestion BUT all the engines concerned had guide vanes in front of the engine.
I recently was informed the suction of a propeller plane is non existent. That cannot be true either right ? I mean a regular Cessna 150 has to have a meter or two where the suction occurs right ?
Too right!!!!!! A propeller moves air from in front of it , to behind it so there is suction in front of it. Go tell that to your friend QUICK!!!!
Oh, I have to correct my 737 safety zone figures. At idle the danger zone is seven feet from the front of the cowl. At any other throttle figure this increases to eighteen feet .
On a 747-400 the figures are nine feet at idle and thirteen feet at takeoff
On the GE90-110 as fitted to the 777-300ER the figures are fifteen feet at idle, twenty eight feet taxiing and SIXTYTHREE feet at takeoff! The GE90 would not even surge if it ingested you!
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I thought that but it appears to start very soon after landing. Perhaps someone with technical knowledge can explain how it might happen? C King, where are you?!
Paul
Mmmmm I would say that it looks like the tyres burst on landing and the fire was the whell hubs disintergrating. Skydrol, the hydraulic fluid should not burn (or so they say)
The lenght of time it took before the evcuation started was proberbly due to the crew waiting for advice from the fire service and the tower. Evacuation of the passengers is only done when there is a risk INSIDE the aircraft. As has been said aircraft are certified to withstand a full blown wheel fire without hull compromise for several minutes. If the other wheels were hot the passengers would have been at risk from them rupturing. Also having a load of passengers wondering around a live taxiway is not a good idea!
There is no indication in the flight deck that the wheels would have been on fire but, they may have been told by the cabin crew that there were flames.
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How far front of the engine will it suck in stuff like ?
At idle on a CFM-56 as fitted to a 737, the danger zone is about twelve feet in front of the engine and to the sides. (measured from the centre of the spinner) The bigger the fan the bigger the danger area and, of course as the engine throttles up the area gets bigger.
My rule of thumb is stay in the van! Or if you have to speak to Biggles, avoid going behind the nose gear.
We some times have to do leak checks on running engines. We approch from behind and there is usualy a red stribe painted on the cowls that indicates the edge of the danger area. There have been engineers ingested over the years. The only bits that are recovered are the steel toe caps from their boots:eek:
I saw one of our “Cone men” standing so close to a running CF-6 once that I felt physicaly sick. I spoke to him after the event and he just ignored me!
It WILL happen on day at MAN
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Oh and they are ELEVEN feet tall:eek:
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Thanks Neil.
For info the winglets increase the span by six feet each side.
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I’m certain that was Eric Bristow…:eek::rolleyes:
😉
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A fine darts player too
R.I.P
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I witnessed the aftermath of XE531’s crash. I was an apprentice at Farnborough and at the time I was in A shed working on the transport flight’s Devon and Dakota aircraft. 531 was also kept there. My apprentice master was the late Alan Rosier, another aircraft fanatic. He had been told that XE531’s rear fuselage was a different diameter than all the other Hunters and he had been meaning to measure it for a number of years so he could make a model of it. That morning we got a plumb bob and marked out the diameter of the fuselage on the hangar floor and measured it. It was the same as all the other Hunters!
The aircraft was wheeled out and prepared for flight. The crew arrived and started to get ready to go flying and for the first time ever I decided to go and do my college home work! I heard the whoosh of the starter and the Avon starting. I heard the Avon throttle up as 531 taxied off. I heard the Avon go to takeoff power. A little while later I heard the crash siren go off! I walked outside to see a plume of smoke and asked Alan “what’s happened?” he told me that 531 had just crashed. “Good job we measured that rear fuselage!” I replied and received the most withering of withering looks from him!
Many, many years later I walked into the flight deck of a 767 and noticed that the pilot’s flight bag had an ETPS sticker on it. I commented on it and said that I was an ex Farnborough man. He then said that he was the pilot of the Hunter that fateful day!
Tis a small world aviation
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The last one’s a charm!
Eaven after all these years the F-4 still looks the buisness! Spey versions look the best though;)
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How about the
A-J savage on a hilltop in antartica :
Not heard about that one! Have you any details? Googled it to no avail
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What have they done to the left hand landing light glass in picture two? it looks like they have over sprayed it or covered it in paint stripper.
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