To plawolf:

I think that you might be a little off in your assessment of the effectiveness of a long range strategic bomber for China.

If the assumption is that China plans to develop forces that can “project” power over the long term then a long range bomber type aircraft, stealthy or not, would be a useful adjunct to their aims.

Just as a rebuilt Nimrod MRA.4 would be of tremendous use to the RAF if they hang some Storm Shadows on it, I think an aircraft of that ilk would be of tremendous use to China. The Russians still find uses for the Tu-95 and the B-52 is still going strong. Stealth is useful but not necessary in all scenarios.

The Canberra was a significant leap unto itself, going from Lincolns/Mosquitos/Washingtons to a high speed jet powered bomber. I think it was as much of a game changer to the RAF that the Hurricane/Spitfire was in the late 1930’s.

However the Lightening/Tornado/Typhoon arguments do not hold water to me. They were significant leaps but not a true generational shift like the Canberra or Hurricane/Spitfire was. The aforementioned fighters had significant advances in their individual performances over their respective predecessors, but they were not a true generational shift. Canberra was a generational shift and so was the Hurricane/Spitfire. Hurricane/Spitfire pilots converted from open cockpit fabric covered biplanes not far removed from World War I types into high speed enclosed cockpit monoplanes with dramatically superior performance.

Perhaps the editor should take a freaking minute and update their website, which has been out of date for about a year and a half now.

They publish a nice little publication, but the flaws in how they run their business are massive.

Drydock would be big news. This would mean either dismantling or fitting out powerplants potentially.

And with the powerplant issue for a moment…Was she completely bereft of propulsion machinery upon delivery or is it just a matter of adding some missing pieces to get her moving under her own power? And as well, if there is significant machinery to be installed would it require cutting open the hull significantly or could they get the kit down the elevators??

HMCS WINNIPEG TO SUPPORT COUNTER PIRACY OPERATIONS OFF SOMALIA

The Government of Canada today announced that Her Majesty’s Canadian Ship (HMCS) Winnipeg will be the fifth Canadian ship since 2006 to join the Standing NATO Maritime Group1 (SNMG1), this time in the Arabian Sea, the Indian Ocean and the Pacific Ocean. SNMG1 is a multinational, integrated maritime force consisting of vessels from the various Alliance nations, training and operating together as a single team.

HMCS Winnipeg’s first mission will be to support Operation Allied Protector, the NATO approved plan for the deployment of SNMG1 vessels to conduct counter-piracy operations off the coast of Somalia. The ship will be part of a naval group consisting of five vessels from Canada, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, and the United States. The frigate NRP Corte Real, of Portugal is the flagship of the fleet.

HMCS Winnipeg’s deployment with SNMG1, conducted under Operation SEXTANT, gives Canada an opportunity to join a flexible, responsive international force, ready to execute any number of missions across a broad spectrum that includes exercises, crisis response, and maritime security operations. During this deployment, HMCS Winnipeg will also conduct diplomatic calls in several Asia-Pacific countries.

Commanded by Commander Craig Baines with a crew of approximately 240 officers and non-commissioned members, HMCS Winnipeg, based at Esquimalt, B.C., and her CH-124 Sea King detachment, form a highly ready and technologically advanced warship. The ship, helicopter and crew are capable of performing a variety of missions worldwide.

Are you confused about the nature of war? You are aware that it involves killing people and destroying things right? And that those who participate in it are fully aware of that fact?

Reality is not disrespectful………..ignorance of the sort you just posted is.

Calling a conflict where over 250 servicepeople dies and 7 ships were sunk along countless others damaged shows your arrogance and cavalier attitude.

I think you like the sound of your own voice….newsflash, not a lot of others do.

On other forums it is possible to tag another user as a ‘foe’ or ‘enemy’ so that (when logged on) there posts do not display. Does anybody know if this is possible on this board?There are some genuine nuggets of interest of provocative ‘what if’ threads as well though and I’d rather not just stop coming here and missing out entirely

+1

Some poeple here like the sound of their own words and one upmanship more than intelligent discourse.

Those kinds of flame wars should be elsewhere and not clogging up what i find is usually a very informative and interesting board.