Memo to Pakistan:
The shame in all of this in my opinion is that the Pakistani military is a highly professional and competent force made up of the most part of patriots who wish nothing more than to serve their country and see it better off when they retire than when they enlisted. The reality is that until the institution itself forces change from within, and forces those elements within the Pakistani security establishment to come to heel and stop running their own wars and foreign policy then these conflicts will only continue in the future, and Pakistan will be left behind by the rest of the world, particularly India.
This is a great thing.
Welcome back RCAF.

This Pakistan thing all comes down to one silly precept in my opinion, namely some warped notion that India will one day either invade or nuke Pakistan out of the blue. All these actions that groups like the ISI take are based ultimately on that notion.
The ISI’s double dealing with the USA on one side and the Taleban on the other is all about keeping Afghanistan off balance and making sure that they have enough influence within that country to keep India from gaining more influence there.
Until Pakistan as a nation comes to terms with the fact that India will not go to war against Pakistan unless provoked (war is not good for business and economic development, at least within the India of today IMHO) they will continue to make decisions like the ones they are apparently making now, that in the long run only hurt themselves most.
I want Pakistan to have a true democracy and that won’t happen until the military stays in the barracks when they disagree with civilian authority and factions within the nation like the ISI come to heel and start taking orders from said civilian authority. I for one hope they get things together and start focusing on the welfare of their citizens (some of which are living in abject poverty) rather than some outmoded notion that they are under threat from India.
The French carrier docked today in Toulon. Flying strikes 6 days a week during four months, CdG launched ~11% of NATO’s strike missions:
840 strike (Rafale/Super Etendard)
390 reconnaissance (Rafale)
120 AEW (Hawkeye)
240 buddy refueling (Rafale/Super Etendard)
http://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2011/08/les-chiffres-du-gae.htmlThis adds up to 13 sorties per day for the 18 aircraft embarked, a rather low number. Average sortie duration was around 2hr 20min.
During this time, CdG sailed 40,000nm at an average speed of only 12kts.
All in all, solid but hardly earth-shattering numbers. Unlikely to really help the case for a second carrier.
not sure I agree with your assessment. CdG was on a months long cruise and was docked in Toulon when she got an extremely short notice set of orders to deploy off Libya. Both her, her crew and the air group were I bet pretty tapped out after a months long cruise before the Libya thing even started. I for one think what she and her crew/embarked air group accomplished considering the circumstances was remarkable.
Are you jealous with China being loaded? :rolleyes:
How about you showing me your bank account for transparency?
I think it is not jealousy but just the nature of the Chinese political system. It is a lot easier for an authoritarian regime like the one that exists in Beijing to just throw money and resources at a project like this and not be bothered with costs or overruns than it would be for a democratic government like the one in India which has to be more accountable to its people and can’t just throw money at every problem they have to face.
HMS Astute can show up and surface alongside any Argie vessel and put the fear of god into them.
Do that a few times and any harassment will stop me thinks.
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/news-nouvelles/news-nouvelles-eng.asp?id=3890
Canadian Armed Forces to deploy Griffon SAR helicopters to Jamaica to support the Jamaican Defense Force for the rest of the 2011 hurricane season.
The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation is reporting today that the Canadian Armed Forces six CF-188 Hornets committed have dropped 455 Paveway LGB’s on government forces since they began their role in the Libyan intervention in the spring.
The CAF have not dropped anything other than guided munitions.
As of August 8th here is the CAF sortie count provided by the Canadian DND
CF-188 Hornet 646
CC-150 Polaris Tanker 178
CC-130 Hercules Tanker 105
CP-140 Aurora 117
The Canadair CL-84 Dynavert

Experimental V/STOL Multi Mission aircraft that was tested in ASW, C-SAR, Ground Support and Transport roles before being cancelled in 1974.
It could have beaten the V-22 Osprey into service by thirty years.
How this thread got to four pages without a single mention of this beast from the true North Strong & Free is beyond me. 😉
The CF-105 Arrow
Canadian Forces sorties in Libyan campaign as of July 8th
CF-188 Hornet – 503
CC-150 (MRTT) Polaris – 145
CC-130(T) Hercules – 61
CP-140 Aurora – 91
considering the Helo in question is closer to fifty rather than forty years old it makes it even more impressive IMHO
One is the original article and the other is a gross violation and outright theft of intellectual property rights.
I think I’ve said this before, but here goes again:
The best short to medium-term option, in my opinion, is Mirage 2000. Qatar has tried to sell its Mirage 2000-5 to India, & the purchase of the UAE Mirage 2000-9 fleet could be linked to a UAE purchase of Rafales. The older UAE airframes date from the late 1980s, but they’ve been well maintained & upgraded to a very high standard. The majority are less than ten years old. The total numbers are plenty: a ready-made air force. The different ages permit a phased replacement, when replacement becomes necessary.
In the meantime, they’d provide a much more uniform, & thus logistically simpler, fleet than Argentina is used to operating, & the option (if desired) of emulating what Pakistan has done with Mirage III/V, i.e. keeping the type current with upgrades, & maintaining numbers relatively cheaply by sweeping up & cannibalising retiring aircraft from other fleets.
An effective & affordable force.
+100000
This is far and away the most sensible option. And with Dassault working with Embraer to keep the Brazilian M-2000 fleet going there is already an established ally that could keep them airworthy and/or upgrade them down the road.
I would guess that there might be the chance to pick up some AdlA surplus airframes as the Rafale comes on line?
There’s nothing nice in war.
With all due respect I know. I served my country and I know what combat is. Do you?
All I was saying here was that the strike was obviously effective consider that the Paveway obviously set off a lot of ammunition that Ghadafy and his goons will not be able to kill innocents with anymore.
War is not nice? You are damned right it is not. Am I happy that a countryman of mine hit a weapons storage facility and destroyed munitions that will never be able to harm others? Damned right I am.
Nice strike indeed.