I have one more request can anyone tell me the difference between the wing mounted and turret mounted guns? Thanks again
Hi Graham,
This is a discussion the Stirling Project is having at the moment. I believe that the firing mechanism is different, with turret guns being hydraulically fired whereas wing guns are pneumatic. The mechanism fitted to the bottom of the gun is of a different design, the turret (hydraulic) version has a more castellated appearance, I’ve had a look at a similar item from a Spit crash which is more cylindrical. I’m no expert on this so if anyone has pictures of these 2 items to make a comparison it would help.
John
I was recently shown around a VC10 by the crew, who described it as the “Vickers Sieve”, a reference to fuel leaks.
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Back in the good old days, I’ve heard Vc-10 tankers referred to as ‘Prescotts’
‘cos they could run 2 Jags at once’.
I love that punch line
Some of those on the website seem very immature and relate to either one incident (Dr Killer for example) or one persons opinion.
The list also suggests a derogatory name for the Harrier, which can only be the opinion of a very small minority (If indeed greater than 1) because the airforce(s) and engineers and the general public all adore that A/c.
A lot of the derogatory names applied to other aircraft come from the rivalry between the operators. As you can tell I’m a Jag mate, and have never worked on Harriers. I am an engineer, but am no fan of the aircraft but that is just my personal opinion:diablo:
Harrier – Leaping Heap
jaguar – Septic Cat
Hi Paul Tried something else:
H714-50A (NSN 5325-14-3145658)
H714-80A (NSN 5325-14-3145659)
Manufacturer:
L’Hotellier
10, Rue Abbe Jean Glatz
Bois Colombes
France
92270
tel: 01 42 42 1394
Hope this helps
John
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Don’t know about ‘hard to find’, we seem to have been over-run with the things in the Stirling Project
useful thread this….
Jaguar Pt Nos prefixed by:
121A
121B
121E
121O – Weapons pylons
121Q – Ground eqpt (IIRC)
121S
Occasionally 121M which I think related to the short lived Maritime version
the others were found all over the aircraft and I could never find anything specific to link them to specific areas although IIRC the ‘A’s and ‘B’s seemed to often be found in the Nose area
sect ref is 26RA as per Elliots post, there are the occasional 526RA as well
Without trying to hijack this thread I would be very interested to hear from anybody who has any archive photo’s of Chippys or pictures of non UK residents that they wouldn’t mind me hosting on my site. 🙂
This seems to have hit a rich vein and I’d echo the request for more pics. XM692 provided me with some photos of WP927, but I’d love to know if any more exist as I’d like to portray the aircraft in its RAF livery (silver with Trainer bands)
John
Thanks again for the input chaps.
TexanTomcat, have you got some photos of how you’ve sorted out the rear canopy rail? My fuselage has been chopped aft of the rear seat and is in need of a structural rebuild in that area.
John
Thanks for all the info chaps, I’m never surprised at all the knowledge out there and will follow it up. I had heard that Bill fisher is a bit of a Chipmunk guru so he will definitely get a call. the only thing that does surprise me though is the lack of publications on the subject, you’d have thought that an aircraft as popular as the Chippy would have had a lot more written about it, although as mentioned a book later this year should redress things a bit.
Thanks again
John:)
I thought it was called (something like !!) PQS last week !!
Or has it changed again;)
DQA was surely 80’s -90’sRegards Baz
Hi Baz,
PQS is soooo yesterday:D It was PQS, then I think it became SPS QA, then TES-DQAG, then DQAG and now it’s just plain old DQA. Mind you it will probably have changed its name again by the time you’ve finished reading this;)
Hi Chaps,
I was a member of the very same organisation although now known by a totally different name. (it seemed we changed our name every few weeks:rolleyes: ) AID is now known as DQA (Defence Quality Assurance) and one of its key roles in the aviation world is to inspect and underwrite a contractors work on an aircraft prior to flight, basically giving 3rd part insurance if god forbid anything was to go wrong. And believe you me we did/do find things wrong prior to flight:eek:
AID was formed during the First World war to introduce consistency of supply and quality between all the various manufacturers, and required all manufacture and testing to be signed off as fit for government use. At one stage AID numbered thousands, currently it stands at just over 200 nationwide and across all defence procurement and is due to be reduced still further.
I can personally vouch for the blood sweat and tears that Richy has expended on this aircraft. Although as he says it needs major work, it is pretty much complete and a work in progress. I wish him all the best in finding a good home for her.