Well, the Aircraft is already reported as over weight… and its not even in once piece yet.
Lets wait and see I say. Time is the only thing that will tell
Airbus are famous for quoting incorrect figures. Many airlines have complained to them on this matter. Cathay Pacific was so p1ssed off at them for the quoting them a zero fuel weight and it was delivered it was over two tonnes heavier. This lead to the aircraft not being able to operate on the route it was bought for. They now have told airbus to shove the A380, which they were interested in, where the sun don’t shine.
The APU can not be used above 20,000 on the 747.
Also, we have two Pressurization outflow valves on the 747, so maybe it’s something else.
you’ve got it mate.
hopefully, THE END.
Yes, I do know, in fact, they are listed in my first post which was the thread starter. Look Skycruiser, I don’t work for an airline, you do. I’m not arguing with you, I’m just trying to make a point, based upon historical data. For instance, the 747’s first route by Pan Am was not JFK-MIA or some other short segment, if was JFK-LHR (or the other direction). I know size has nothing to do with ‘it.’ All I’m saying, is that an aircraft as revolutionary, and as mammoth as the A380 is (much like the 747 was 35 years ago) should be deployed on a very prestigious long haul route, a la JFK-LHR like the 747 did in 1970.
First of all, CALM down. I was asking a question, not arguing. People ask questions on this web site and if I have a valid response I will post it. As you say you think it should be used on a prestigious route, I agree it will, but my opinion is that it will after a short duration of short sectors for crew training.
An airlines priority is to train the crew and get them familiar with the aircraft not send it off on a prestigious sectors. Saftey is the name of the game in the aviation industry.
The aforementioned first routes of the 707, 747, and 777 are immediate examples. These airlines obviously put them into the long-haul sector right off the bat without doing the short-haul thing first. Why is that?
Do you know which airliners and routes they first flew? They all do long haul flying but for the frist month or so into service I would bet on crew training on short routes. I would be very suprised if they went straight onto long haul operations.
[QUOTE=greekdude1]I was just thinking along the lines of a longer long-haul route to be the first revenue flight, given the magnitude and sheer size of the aircraft.
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It’s size has nothing to do with it.
When an aircraft gets handed over it has to be ferried back from the manufacture i.e. Airbus. On its return it will probably go through its own maintenance check and be fitted out to a different spec such as different seats etc.
You can’t just decide to operate a pax service as soon as it comes out of the hangar.
All of our new aircraft are ferried back to HKG, checked and re fitted to our spec before carrying a passenger.
I would also like to thank Ian for all his help with my career. If it hadn’t been for Ian I might not be here now. I now am looking forward to seeing him in Hong Kong, the beers are on me mate.
Good luck Ian.
no probs mate.
Guys, you are missing the point here.
Firstly SIN to HKG is a very profitble and revenue making service.
An airline has anywhere between 10 and 25 CREWS per plane, not one. One crew cant fly an aircraft all the time. This means all the crews need line training. You cant do that in the sim at Airbus. To complete this you need maximum sectors quickly, you cant do this operating long haul services.
An example of this was BA when thay got the B777, thay were operating them to Paris for months for crew training.
Flying and introducing a NEW type to an airline is not as easy as having one trained crew and letting them loose on it, you need to get the crews trained properly and the best way of doing it is maximum flying in a short space of time.
oh christ, skylinerworld is back
I feel it will be a shuttle type flight maybe SIN-HKG to allow maximum crew training.
Skycruiser and Moondance thanks for sharing these they were super.
Skycruiser I was going to ask you did you get the Freight flt off standby!!!
Have you ever been to Anchorage before?
Yes, I was called out of reserve. And no I haven’t been to Anchorage before. It was quite nice though. Shame it was raining. 😎
Fantastic photos, Skycruiser. I was not aware that you guys had to operate the Cargo flights, as well. I thought airlines such as CX, SQ, NW, JL, etc. that have pax and cargo divisions, employed 2 different sets of pilots for pax flights and cargo flights. Interesting to see some of the items on the palates.
That’s very true, we do. But if you like you can volunteer to operate the freighter aswell. I wanted to see another operation in action so I listed for it. I was called out from reserve to do the freight flight, so it’s very rare we will do them.
well, a downside is most cargo flights are at night. So Cargo jockey’s become night owls.
All of my pax long haul flying becomes a night flight but the trip to and from Alaska was daylight both ways which was a nice change.