In deed, Tmor’s intervention was very helpful because i read a greek aviation blog with title “1 Rafale costs 142 mln euros!”

I often seen 1 Rafale + weapons + support is around 142 mln but it was in dollars at that time 😮

Still the increase in price is consistent, probably following the more advanced additions in the F3. But, i am afraid it will make loose competitiveness against the Typhoon.

In 2009, we heard about many new sub system in devellopement for the Rafale, obviously, it has a cost.
About the competitivity with the Typhoon, I guess we can say that the Rafale even more expensive has a very good reason to be :diablo:

We can all congratulate Tmor to spend so much time trying to understand exactly what are those figures because it’s not as simple as it looks like.

But from the little I understood, I fear that we are now quite away from the €55 millions fly away price ….

The six Raptors were undefeated, against all opponents. 27th FS CO Lt Col Lansing Pilch was quoted by the Virginian as saying that: “In every test we did, the Raptors just blew the competition out of the water.”

I believe the Rafales did well, though, and impressed the F-22 pilots.

It’s totally consistent with 6 WVR fights ending with a 1-0 in favor of the F-22.

In what appears to be yet another incredibly compressed development timeline, pictures emerged today of a prototype “20 ton” class helicopter with a different granularity and range of colors on the picture than other objects in the background.

Personally, I doubt it. If indeed the F-35 is to be axed, the last option would be long hated french made airframes. A more likely choice would be a naval version of either the Gripen or the Typhoon.

Come on, go ahead, why buying a Rafale when you have plane as expensive with less range, less payload …. :diablo:

We have been talking of JF-17 as a “mini-Mirage 2000”, well seems like this going to happen. Here’s a post I found on another site.

I corrected your statement, hope you don’t mind. 😀

For years, Air et Cosmos journalists are banned from Dassault press conference and the magazine does not receive advertising from the firm. So i don’t know if this report about Rafale and F22 is a true story written by independant journalists or something published by a spiteful magazine with an agenda.

http://gklein.blog.lemonde.fr/2006/05/25/2006_05_dassault_face_a/

And i would like to know their sources…;)

With the exception of the Rafales using their radars, which means a quick death by Raptors, what surprise you inside that report ? There is nothing new.

They were quite displeased with what?? The MIRAGE having better turn rates than the Hornet in high altitude ? probably yes . The Hornet was designed to be a strike aircraft, first and foremost .The absence of any serious air-to-air threat in the region on one hand and the US protection on the other ,convinced the Kuwaitis that Hornet would be the right choice as it mainly carried out A2G missions ,a combat proven ,mature strike fighter ,ready to go anywhere with an incredible range of A2G stores, and in A2G , the Hornet is massively superior to Mirage 2000

There were displease with the result of Qatar/Koweit excercices.

Can you show me where I said something like that ???

Damn, really soooooorry for the misunderstanding, but so many people have that sentence in the mouth … for so much time 🙂

So, what had you in mind ? What will happen in 2015 ?