And you’re saying France doesn’t sell weapons based on political reasons?
Why are you changing the subject ?
Both countries selected the F15, when Japan bought theirs there was no other fighter in the world to match it.
I wanted to say that it was like an agreement of the kind “I’m buying your stuff and you will help me in the future”.
Not true, we had support for equipment not in the US inventory. And are you saying that countries using French equipment don’t see a fall of in packages available? US companies have excellent spares support, that’s a fact.
The fact is I was tlaking of the support of RAfale/Typhoon in 2025 and after and took the F-5 and F-1 to show you what can be seen in 2006.
Why are you talking in GENERAL ?
And no, the american support has been pathetic in the french armies from 2003 to 2005.
If French support is so good can you explain why Alstom can’t supply spares for equipment it supplied new 12 years ago?
Where’s the Rafale ?
Not numerical, financial, military capability is linked to R&D funds and development budgets, nowhere else in the world comes close to the US in this area, and it rubs off on US export weapons.
Right, as long a the products are into the american inventory.
The F22 and F35 promise to be much more stealthy than any other fighters in service.
Specially the F-22, for the f-35, let’s see it first.
Now Europe is trying to pretend this doesn’t matter, but in that case why does Rafael and Typhoon marketing make so much of RAM coatings and stealthiness, face it, Europe would love the low radar signature technology of the F22 and F35 but couldn’t fund it.
Or funded anti stealth technologies.
Anyway, your point is a comparison of US vs Europe capabilities while neither the american nor european armies are playing that game.
That is true, but why do you suppose US aircraft can’t do this?
A F-16 can do it.
A E/F-18 can do it.
Not a F-15.
Have you looked at the Middle East today, those IDF fighters are being used intensively you know.
Try to comapre the figures with those of mirage III 😀
In the Balkans and in the Gulf wars US designs were used intensively.
Of course, the USAF has everything to sustain a high intensity conflict.
And why don’t you give some figures what are mean times between failures for the engines in question?
Such a skilled engineer such like you don’t know them ?
F35 price is indeed a big worry, on that I’ll agree, but I come back to an earlier point, there is no such thing as cheap, effective, weapons development
“Cheap” was perhaps a bit akward to use, but the f-35 was supposed to be HALF the price of a RAfale or Typhoon, thanks to a huge demand.
It seems that the idea behind was flawed.
Why are so many European countries buying the F35?
Because they thought that by funding 500 millions, they would get contracts for 2 billions in retourn.
Why does Europe rely on E3 AWACS?
Because it was less expensive to buy tham than building brand new ones.
Why did Spain buy the AEGIS system for the F100?
I don’t know much into specific naval matters but for what I know, a Type 45 can easily equal that F100.
What other destroyer has an ABM capability? What is the Euro equivalent of the C17?
PErhaps that it doesn’t fit our arsenal ?
Why is it that the Typhoon and Rafael enter service 30 years after the F15 and offer equivalent capability?
Because of the price.
BTW:
We couldn’t afford that kind of beast.
Why is it is you look inside the shiny boxes of a lot of European products you find a lot of US sourced electronics and systems?
Why don’t you stick with the discussion ?
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