Contrary to what some people may think, the Indian govt knows exactly what it wants:
It wants the best strategic deal out of this rather large purchase.
Yes. But that doesn’t say that I’m wrong when stating “The Mod don’t know what kind of plane to get”.
Rafale with Kaveri is an intriguing offer…
Certainly but a very smart move from SAFRAN 🙂
Typhoon ?
One of the very few planes more expensive than a rafale ?
France sold a more or less asbestos-free Foch to Brazil.
About the Clemenceau sold to India, for what I know, and that nobody can denied, is that France has promised very good condition of work nad I don’t speak of the technical knowledge that the company could gain.
Is it right that they are going to tow her back the long way via the Cape rather than through Suez ? Didn’t she go out via Suez ?
The clem will come back via South Africa.
PErhaps we are waiting for a rogue wave 🙂
This is the original FS-X design. I am currently writing a topic about this for my web.
A strange mix of Typhoon, Rafale and F-18.
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=117822
Come on … is this really true ?
I read an article about that, but it was not from MAM but from a reprensentant of Dassault.
But it sound very suspicious to me.
what does the Rafale offer when compared to the existing force structure of Su-30MKI, MiG-29, Bisons, Mig-27 and Jaguars, and in the future more Su-30MKIs, LCA and some 5th generation aircraft?
Your question doesn’t make sense.
Rephrase it.
don’t compare the two in terms of specs against each other..compare the two on how they will do missions required by India.
You really don’t understand.
NOBODY KNOWS WHAT INDIA WANT.
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=117822
Come on … is this really true ?
For what I know, Not at all. Between a 2000-5 and a rafale, it’s more or less true from a pilot point of view. But for a mirage 2000 H ….
But don’t worry, between your Mig-29 and a Mig-35 don’t even think of a trivial transition too.
Mr TX,
I agree with you, not only on that, but in regards to the Rafale in general. In its current form it is superior to the M2K yes, but performance gap is not that large enough to warrant the higher price tag.. especially since the M2K is cheaper to run and probably easier to maintain, but can carry the same weapons and whose avionics and radar are not that far behind.
Sorry but I wonder where this myth comes from.
For the french AF, it’s twice better than a mirage 2000.
Cheaper to run ? with a single engine, not a real achievement.
EAsier to maintain ? The goal of Dassault is to makes you wrong, I’m not sure of teh current status by now.
Avionics and radar. The immature F1 Rafale perhaps. As soon as you’re talking of the F2 it’s quite different.
They have no choice. Either NEW American AESA or 20 years OLD American slotted array.
That’s not wrong.
A recent classical radar like the RDY seems to be popular with his customers.
Rafael have non-finished PESA at best
What’s a non finished PESA at best.
Still, for the next 20 year it might be more cost effective to use PESA instead of AESA – the difference in capabilities is not that great, but cost might be much lower for PESA. Of course, its also very possible what in 10 year AESA radar will cost less than PESA radar.
According to you, what’s the goal of the AMSAR program in Europe ?
To achieve a real technical breakthrought via innovation and not brute force like Raytheon is managing to do thanks to the american budget + exports.
About the PESA and EASA, what I can said is that
– By pluging an active one on the RBE2 you’re suppose to gain 20 or 30% of max range. Of course, in reality, figures might not be as sexy as it sound.
– the main diffrence is all the capabilities of the AESA, but need specific programs which comes with a price. For what I know, the F-35 will have the full monty while, still for the RBE2, only the more usefull ones are funded.
It is impossible to compare Hugo Chavez’s increasingly dictatorial, narco-terrorist supporting regime with India’s democracy.
India is American’s ally; Chavez claims to be America’s enemy.
If you prefer to compare with UK 🙂
Aurel.
That’s a good lesson from the Eurofighter story.
If you can’t have the best relationship (industrial and political of course), don’t try to be equal partners with more than 2 members.
An obvious leader isn’t something wrong.
will the brits speak french to the french shiips or will the french speak english to the RN ships?
French speak english I think.
I think that between the barracuda and the Neuron, some differents are obvious.
The barracuda is more mature because the program is older but it seems the Neuron goal is to produce a more advanced product.
It’s right that Germany seems to have a very good product with the Lampyridae but now, this kinf of stealth is obsolete.