A Milan from Dassault

From http://www.dassault-aviation.com/passion/gb/dassault_a_a_z/avions/detail.cfm?id=57

http://tomcat85.free.fr/dassault-milan.php
http://www.geocities.jp/protoplanes/Milan.html

How much thrust will kaveri require to propel LCA into supercruise?

PErhaps we could try to extrapolate from the performance of the Mirage 2000 ?
What’s the max militray thrust ?

From the begining the idea of purchasing a Mirage 2000 fleet when it seems to be so close to being “put to sleep” was a very scary one to me. This article above states that the French WILL close down the M2K production line so I ask : where are the many “soon to be won” new Mirage clients? Embraer told reporters that a Brazilian M2K line would supply to all the air forces in South America… I think they now see they were wrong!

It was said the same thing with the F-15 eagle.

On the contrary in my opinion I feel the MiG-23 and the F-4 has a better aerodynamic configuration than the Mirage III. There is a pretty darn good reason why every other country other than France dumped the tail less pure delta design pretty quick, went swept wing (F-4), or tailed delta (MiG-21). Deltas are very efficient in moving at high speeds, but really proves to be a drag at slow speeds and tend to bleed speed quickly in turns.

The fact that Dassault use a more conventionnal configuration for the Mirage F1 proves you’re right on that I think.

The Mirage 2000 Mirage III NG and Kfir C2 are basicly single engine, single seat delta aircraft with canards

Canards ? On the mirage 2000 ?

in the Mirage 2000 the center of lift is in front of the center of gravity contrary to the Mirage III and IAI Kfir, in order to compensate for that lack of stability the Mirage 2000 uses fly by wire.

Instabolity, Fly by wire ? Doesn’t it ring a bell for you ?

radar and needed better visibility a new airframe and wings were built but basicly the Mirage 2000 is a Mirage III.

The Mirage 4000 is a twin engine Mirage 2000 with bigger canards and bouble canopy.

But you prove nothing.
Even the aerodynamic between the 2000 and 4000 are pretty different with the last even more agile than the smaller 2000.

The Mirage III NG and Kfir C2 had all the features you can enjoy in the Mirage 2000 and Mirage 4000 and eventualy lead to the Rafale.

I’m gonna make it very simple.
What features ?

The RB-199 hasn’t to do with EJ200. Engine technology has advanced much.

I know.
Just to say that the EJ200 has been optimized for high altitude.

There was no mention of any Japanese company which represent the Rafale. Do that they have give up? Or do the Japanese think a French plane will never got a chance.

I think that the Japanese MoD never asked to France anything about the RAfale.

Either they want a pure interceptor (and thought that the RAfale would fit in that competition), either it has been forbidden.