now the LCA is not ment to replace these but it could have and it won’t, 125 Mirages is a lot of money for a developing country, even one of the fastest growing one,
I really wonder if India wanted a brand new plane from an unexperimented compagny as more common fighter.
Actually, it was in numerous news reports on ACIG
ACIG isn’t the original source then
Also, the Rafale was offered for a bigger price to various countries like SK and Austria.
In Sk, the Rafale mk2 was under the 3.2 billions ofr the 40 planes with new radar, new CFT and new engines + weapons.
Even the super high end Rafale was lower than 70 millions alone.
So either the 70 millions is right but not for the plane only and no way DAssault ask 70 millions for a armless plane without ToT when they have been the first to propose it in all other competition.
Anyway, even if I’m french, I hope that the Su-35 would be the winner for that competition.
If the gov decided to give up, some F-16 MLU can be a cheap and efficient transition plane.
Does anyone have a good sources for the M2000Br price ?
Please keep this BS of 70 millions per plane, that’s even more expensive than a rafale.
ROmania is the poorest country in europe and ppl speak of Mirage 2000-5 and things like that ?
As saying that d day liberated French, is false, French liberated themselves.
they never took a feet under paris line, Paris who was liberated by the Free french, helped by 2th DB of Leclerc, yes the ally HQ not pointed Paris liberation as URGENT! so the french done the job!
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And I’m french :rolleyes:
85 million Euros for a demonstrator.
that’s not only the radar, but the whole program of building and testing it.
Yeah, so was even for export orders. Everytime SEPECAT tried to make some deal, Marcel Dassault came the next day with even better offer for Mirage III or Mirage V. And since he knew the details, he could develop even better strategy to beat em down.. The only real loss for him was India. It is also interesting to note that only British side ever attempted to export the Jag, Dassault was not really interested. That is why all export variants are quasi Mk1s, not As.
He did even worst in France.
The french MoD was under heavy lobbying from Dassault to never put former Jaguar pilots in high rank 😮
Ummm. Yes, I am. But once you do that, it’s not the same beautiful, small, maintenance-intensive beast, is it? It is now an inelegant, heavier, maintenance-intensive beast.
I don’t see the problem if the -K isn’t as felin as the first version.
India should stick with Sukhoi.
IIRC, the Indian Navy wanted Rafales but Russia said: “The Mig 29-K or no carrier”
I refer you to the brief outline of french military prowess posted by flex earlier. It’s based on books written by english and american historians.
I hope you’re kidding right now.
Man, it’s a joke you know.
Only thing the French fleet have is the Mirage 2000, albeit a lovely aircraft but nothing to really boast about.
you’re talking about EF2000 and JSF for UK and mirage2000 for France 😮
P.S. It still boggles my mind that they tech french kids in their schools that the “french resistance” and the “free french” actually had an impact, however modest, on WWII. Remarkable.
You know what ? They teach to french kids that the force of “france libre” were pretty modest for lots of reason. 🙂
Another little boy who don’t understand why France lost against the best army in the world I guess.
conformal arrays ?
I thought that it has been cancelled for years but I don’t know if the recent very high military budget afford the USAF to buy it.
why so ….i am sure that it could be uselful to the US military for its needs…..but that depends how much it costs etc….if it is over the board…then it is useless…
No, I wanted to say that I doubt the pentagon would buy a Euro-american helo.
They would prefer, even if it’s not just as good, a 100% american choper I think.
If Eurocopter goes through with this monster, could we see it being fielded by the Marines as a CH-53E replacement? Also is it just me, or is the U.S. starting to neglect too many markets – first jet trainers and now heavy helos.
Anyway, Eurocopter can’t do the HTH alone and need an american patners, which seems doubtful for the moment.
But heres a thought- can the NO11M and Zhuk MSF transition to AESA’s ultimately? The RBE2 and CAptor claim to be able to do the same with AMSAR.
The RBE2 is already an electronic radar and could be upgrade quite easily to AESA.
For the Captor, I’m nearly sure that it’s totally different matter.