Originally posted by phrozenflame
logically, who’ll buy mirage when u can get Rafale for similar price?

Because the miraeg is as costly as a Rafale only in your dreams.

Originally posted by Harry
The IAF evaluated the Rafael a long time ago and confirmed that it will be a part of it’s 21st century fleet.But,I don’t see the Rafale enjoying too much advantage over the Su-30MKI at all.

since the MKI is certainly of very good plane, competitors cannot be far ahead.

Originally posted by Harry
Another advantage the SU-30MKI enjoys is it’s IRST.

the rafale has 2 IRST (one for A2A one for A2G), one laser and a TV camera.

Originally posted by Harry Workload is shared between the pilot and navigator which is another advantage of the MKI(especially in strike roles).

Sorry, for the rafale, it’s the same thing.

Originally posted by Harry
As with the Su-37,the MKI has a quadruple redundancy remote flight control system.

No mirages 2000 or RAafle ever crashed for a problem of flight control system failure.

But waht about the reliability of the engines ?
Do you still need to check the engines every 300 hours ?
The French AF refuse an engine under 400 hours.

Originally posted by seahawk
glitter I can´t give you the link. And I can´t tell you where I first read that. I think it is also stated in the EF special with the new AFM though.

Well, since the rafale can do some supercruise, with the higher thrust, it sound plausible to say that with some AAM, the EF2000 san do some supercruise too.

Originally posted by Distiller
Let’s get some things straight here:

I’m sure that it will be funny.

Originally posted by Distiller

# F-22 is designed to supercruise fully loaded and at low flight levels — max Mach 1.8 — and it is the only fighter to do so.

It’s the only one who can easily do supercruise no problem with that.
Fully loaded ? Fully internal loaded, ok.

Anyway, a F-22 fan, said something related to the engines.
Only the F-22 has got engines made with supercruise in mind.

Originally posted by Distiller

# EF2000 will be able to supercruise at about M1.2/.3, but not with underwing pylons, only with semiconformal-carried AAMs in thin air and a good percentage of fuel burnt off. Same goes with Rafale. Missiles like the Sidewinder or Iris-T have dreadful supersonic drag characteristics (also a problem the F-16 had before they started using AIM-120 on wingtip pylons).
# Neither EF nor Rafale have real radar stealth characteristics, they have somewhat reduced observability at certain wavelength.

NOthing new here, sorry.
NObody said that the EF2000 is in the same league of the F-22, why do you feel the need of saying that again and again ??

Well, well, please, keep our heads cool.

The link said

The Indian Navy recently stated its preference for the French Rafale-M fighter over the MiG-29K for its new aircraft carrier

YEs, of course, who would prefer a mig 29 over a Rafale ?

Unfortunately, it’s the Indian gov who can choose the fighter, not the Navy.

The title is really confusing.

Seahawk
Dassault said taht the RAfale could be used on the Gorshkov but I think
1) With the M88-3 for a better margin of safety
2) In lighter configuration than the Rafale M oon the CdG

AirToAircombat
yes, the CdG catapults are made in USA.

Originally posted by Srbin
GUYS NO FLAMING, keep it nice

Hmm I think if France senses India might sign those deals then France wont bother with Pakistan, but if they do not then I think France might offer the Rafale to Pakistan.

I think Pakistan can afford Rafales, not all at once but in a period of time, a decade possibly.

Pakistan buying RAfale, yeaaaaah :rolleyes:

Re: Re: Re: lol

Originally posted by PILOTGHT
France separated the state from the religious for 200 years,

Err, don’t you know what is the “loi de 1905” ?

Originally posted by Tempest
I’m amused that despite the fact the Austrian deal has been signed, the French are so desperate to sell the Rafale they are even trying to get a leg in at this stage.

So that’s what they think of the Typhoon eh, poor loosers. Maybe they should try to sue as they did in S Korea.:o

I have never seen any french article about that “late offer” from Dassault.

Since the reason given is really stupid, I”m pretty sure that information is a fake.

About SK, you must admit that dassault was “right” .
If you trial is biaised, it’s not only pointless to said that no political point of view will interfer with it, but it’s also dishonnest.