Fabulous find, Deino! A much anticipated aircraft! Beautiful!
I was silently hoping for a colour scheme a la their GR1/GR4 machines but anyway.. !!!!
A few Saudi Tornado pictures to keep you happy for a bit…
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re Typhoon bashing
As some people are saying I never intended this thread to become a Tiffy bashing thread so please stop or I’ll get very upset! 🙁
I admit the title may seem a little negative but I was hoping, and seem to have got, a debate about how the Typhoon compares to the other aircraft it is in direct competition.
Let the debate continue…!
The Jag looks much better with the over wing AIM-9 pylons! :rolleyes:
Nice ones. What’s the aircraft parked in the bottom RH corner of the final pic? Looks a bit like one of the very early Hawks, but can anyone confirm?
Looking at the FAST website it is either a Jaguar XW566 or a Hunter WV383.
How about a documentary about British planes and how they shaped the aviation world?
Yes, the Americans may have had the first flight but us Brits were a very close second.
First supersonic flight, us Brits again very close second but what about all the British firsts everything from the DH Comet, the EE Lightning including VSTOL and the many other British designs?
I think it is fair to say this is the aircraft that has carried the most impressive weapons load…!
Which Chipmunk is it that is just visible on the fourth picture?
Several good points here…
I think it is silly to ask whether it will “flop” or not. However a more interesting question could be why it has not scored more sales? in particular considering the points you mention above. Typhoon pulled out of the Norwegian and Danish competition because they could not compete with Gripen NG; too expensive, no strategic advantages, offset package way below Saabs, etc.
It also lost in Brazil which was a surprise to me.
Actually I am not convinced that Typhoon will win that many sales. Like Gripen it contains US components; it is more expensive than SH, F-16 and Gripen; T3 seems not to be properly defined yet(?), offsets are always so-so, at least compared to Saab, and as for political clout, well you can’t compete with the US. Throw in the competition from F-35 and it does not look too bright for the Typhoon.
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As Loke said I think I should probably have reworded the original question, whilst I never really thought the Typhoon would ‘flop’ I was expecting an aircraft whose design commenced in the mid 80s to have been completely unmatched.
Considering the aircraft was known as the Eurofighter I wasa expecting many more than four (possibly five if Greece chooses it also) European countries to operate it.
In years to come will people be looking at the Eurofighter Typhoon and thinking how many more orders could have been placed if it was better marketed?
Didn’t any RAF Tornado F3s shoot down any Iraqi aircraft during Gulf War 1?
There is a story there…but is there enough for the actors to do?
(in other words… a human element that separates an entertainment film from a documentary?).
I’d imagine there would be lots of sitting in an aeroplane wearing helmets and perhaps (face obscuring) oxygen masks….not much snappy dialog on the intercom or radio. Remember it’s got to be at least somewhat entertraining to the public.
Yes, we’d love to see shots of a Vulcan in the air, but would your wife/girlfriend/mother/stamp collecting brother (i.e. a non-FlyPast reader) want to sit through it?By “Hollywood” I take it you mean a major studio film with international participation..the way most are made nowdays…(Bond, H. Potter, LoR, and most other films people think of as British..or NZ, Australian, Chinese, Canadian, etc.).
Why not. “They” make some excellent films…and if you’re willing to trust them with the holy canon of “The Dambusters”…why not Falklands? Clint Eastwood did a great job on his film about Iwo Jima from the Japanese perspective
I fully understand that, I mean look what the Americans did to the Memphis Belle story.
On her last mission she sustained untold damage and only just made it back home, in reality the mission was actually very straightforward with very little to write home (or make a movie) about.
Hear hear – and I agree with the Vulcan 607 suggestion. Let’s get it greenlit and give XH558 another season!
Other films screaming to be made are Taranto, the Norwegian Campaign, Operation Tungsten, Battle of Matapan, Battle of Philippine Sea, Biopic of Albert Ball etc etc etc
They won’t get made though because the subjects don’t have enough ‘popular appeal’.
I think with XH558 getting the starring role Vulcan 607 The Movie would have lots of public appeal!
There always will be war films. Some make epics. I’ve just read Vulcan 607 and think that would make an excellent film.
But wouldn’t that offend the Argies? :p
Why to claim a wave of immigrants will create a war?
First there is no military power threating the US from Mexico since Mexico first has only 12 old F-5s and a few Pilatus versus the entire USAF with F-22s and F-35s even forgeting the american fleet of F-16s and F-18s.
Second Mexico and the US can not live without each other economically.Third the universal human rights declaration claims all of us are Humans and the same species having equal rights and all the Americans values are based upon that concept, so there is not going to be a war between Mexico and the US in the near future because most of americans consider themselves Cristians and not racially biased and most mexicans want closer links with the US .
So in few words the land of the free as the americans call it wellcomes all immigrants and the criterion for rejection is not based upon race but on moral character.
All of us are Human but some are more Human than others.
oops!
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Shouldn’t that be Hurricane AM274?
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