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  • in reply to: 92nd Bomb Group B-17F Society Gal #1055648
    Steve Birdsall
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    92nd Bomb Group B-17Fs

    Thanks for the comments. T-21, I at least one of the photos of these aircraft was taken August 19, 1942, not in September or in England, as you note.

    Dan, that’s a different Dottie.

    Deryk, yes I have Cliff Bishop’s book but as you know there are no plane-name or plane-crew tieups for the 92nd originals, and not all are identified by squadron.

    The 92nd flew to England by squadrons, in four nine-plane flights. I believe that the 327th Squadron was 41-24376 Hellzapoppin, 41-24388, 41-24400, 41-24406, 41-24413, 41-24419, 41-24435, 41-24437 and one more that I can’t identify.

    Other known nicknames on those 327th planes were Exterminator (Haas crew), Virgin Sturgeon (Winget crew) and Society Gal.

    Overseas orders for the 92nd flights would provide the answers, but they don’t seem to be available anywhere.

    in reply to: Doubt issued on authenticity WW2 Story #1046044
    Steve Birdsall
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    41-24406 All American

    And here’s the bit they threw away.

    http://users.beagle.com.au/stevepb/4406.jpg

    The fighter attack that caused the damage took place “about five minutes” after bombs away, according to Jack Davenport, pilot of Flying Flit Gun.

    Why anyone thought this story needed enhancing is totally beyond me.

    in reply to: Doubt issued on authenticity WW2 Story #1046195
    Steve Birdsall
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    Ian Hunt covered this well, but I thought I’d add that this B-17F, 41-24406, actually flew again . . . I’ll quote from the book Ian mentioned, Pride of Seattle.

    The centre rear section of All American was removed and replaced with a matching section from another wreck. This work took the 50th Service Squadron nearly three months, and the repaired aircraft was then assigned to the 353rd Squadron, 301st BG. M/Sgt Virgil E. “Hock” Annala was her ground crew chief and he says, “For all intents and purposes the marriage of the forward section and the after section made her look like a B-17. The flight characteristics were something else. . . her service with the 301st in a combat role was short-lived. She was extremely slow and plagued with problems”. All American’s last combat mission was to Bo Rizzo on May 10, 1943. All turrets, guns and armor plate were then removed and she was used as a utility aircraft until she was salvaged overseas in March 1945.

    There’s a fuller version of the story in Claims to Fame: The B-17 Flying Fortress, a book I wrote with Roger Freeman.

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