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September 29, 2011 at 10:01 pm in reply to: Russian Aviation thread, part V #2306841

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The rounds in the carousel are in the strongest protected part of the tank. Ofc if penetration does occur, and hits the rounds, you are in trouble. But that is no different from Arjun/Leo2 hull ammo being hit. The crew is screwed either way I am afraid. Half hearted measures will not change that.
In Chechnya T-72Bs were penetrated by RPGs in some instances 14 times (!!!!) and no ammo detonation occurred, because the ammunition was in the carousel. The T-90MS is a compirmise solution (all tanks are ofc) but a pretty good one by the look of it. No ammo aside from in carousel, all of it is moved to the separate bustle. Very safe solution, though it lowers the number of combat ready rounds. Why not complete redesign? Russian army isn’t even interested in the tank, they have something brand new in the pipeline (Armata). I would like to see them place a modest number of orders until Armata is ready..but who knows. Makes more sense for India I think, given how many T-90s they are gunning for.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?203498-Arjun-lining-up-to-be-world-s-most-expensive-tank!!

They had a good discussion about this on mp,net, in the interest of staying within the context of this thread, I am goign to leave it at that.

Only reason I even posted the pic is because I was told repeatedly here (not by you) that the Arjun had completely isolated ammunition. Clearly, not the case.

thank you for this information I did not know Russia made a new tank T-90MS. I looked for it on google and surprised the leap it was over the T90.. In Venezuela there are some people who wonder if that T-72 plan was really the best one because Colombia is going for newer tanks and is considering Arjun. If Indian report say Arjun is better than even older T-90 India has, Colombia should aim higher.

September 29, 2011 at 9:48 pm in reply to: Venezuela acquisition: T-50/J-20, Yak-130/L15? #2306843

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yak130 and l15 comparison is very interesting! they look like almost the same airplane except for the back part. it seem the Chinese one has bigger engines like a small fighter. yes i am familiar that China decide to use the other training aircraft JJ9 but i do not think the FAV is interested in that very much and I am very much surprised Chinese Air Force choose that over L15

September 29, 2011 at 9:45 pm in reply to: Venezuela acquisition: T-50/J-20, Yak-130/L15? #2306844

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greeting, thank you for the reply everyone!

The issue of wehther the weapon is a copy or not is not really affecting the FAV side to be honest! as long as spare supply is good, weapon work and delivery is good, it is the only issue that is important for the user side. But maybe the issue of how many weapon the airplane is compatable with can be something of much consideration. I do not know much what T-50 and J-20 will be using because they are still in the testing section but maybe people here may have some literature on what has been announced by the companies. In regard to the Sukhoi 35, I am just repeating what was told to me but it is true that bringing in Sukhoi 35 would mean another type of aircraft into the FAV system and it is easier to get more Sukhoi 30 then Sukhoi 35 and 30. Also existing issue with Sukhoi 30 and corrosion need to be resolve first. Venezuela is a marine tropical climate.
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