You may have a point J. However its a known fact the USAF was offered a 747 “bomber” proposal inj the late ’70’s. Probably as a cost reduction measure. Remember, this was in competition with upgraded cuise missiled B-52 G’s and H’s which could “only” carry 20 ALCM’s.

I think, the boeings blended wing concept wud have made a good bomber, which was created in response to the A380, but never took off coz of the passenger related evacuation probs and others. This one also looked like Tupolevs blended wing design with upper fuselage mounted engines …..

That huge belly wud have accomodated in the multiple times as to what the B-1 cua have carried at the extreme ……

Personally, i think there are a complete load of sad misguided pinkos out there, who just wait for a thread like this to come along and mouth off.
Thier view of the world is simple, the west stinks, the US is morally corrupt, and satan lives in the white house…

For gods sake, dont they ever realise that they are beginnig to look kinda bitter, twisted and SAD :confused:

The prob with the yanks who caome here and scream abt US lending the world etc etc and the non-existant guts to take-in criticizm is coz of what u said “Satan’ being the Commnist, Soviets etc etc fed from the school days ….. which in way made the arrogants to think them selves as the supreme, who never err, morally sound and what not. Come out of the view, to the real world and see it from outside, and u’ll feeel ashamed .. but the conditiuon being that the person shud have a sense of shame.

Now, u might say the said brain wasing stuffs goes around all over etc etc, but atleast , I can say with full confidence that It never happened in India, and myself bing spend my entire scholing in army corps school, i never ever did got any lessons for my teachers to hate our immediate neighbour Pakistan, for what it was or what it is. But I can fully say that it was not the case with the yanks. Any honest (is it self-contridictory?) yank will tell that coz, many old students (who can now be called granpa and gradma etc etc) will trell u how the teacher used to teach then what EVIL was …..

I suppose this threads just an excuse to get the whole “Death to America!” camp enflamed again.

Why don’t we open a seperate board on here for this kind of politically charged dogma to stop it cluttering Military Aviation ?

now, the thread in itself was in itself calling for overthrowing a democratically elected Govt and to invade a sovereign Nation, if u don expect such a nature of reply from a civilised world, its not exactly the place u shud have been ….

Agreed….

But the Americans will just go elsewhere to make up the backfall, and retaliate by hindering venezuelas other markets….
It suits them to do that, a failing venezuelan economy sows the seeds of discontent…then its goodbye chavez..
Its tantamount to cutting off your nose to save your face..however unfair the US price was.
Also, im not sure on this, and i stand to be corrected..but is not china self sufficent with oil?
However, i may be wrong with that one 😀

Nope, US wont go anywhere like thats and the frustration of the same was what a thread like this. US wud love to get the Venezuelan OIL alomst free for as long as they can , like how they got from their $itchy sons which rules Venezuela before Higo came to power.

And shipping the venezuelan OIL is the most profitable for the US, which cust the shipping cost in addition to that is the dirt cheap , almost free OIL that they got from the earlier rulers of Venezuela.

Neither will Venenzuela gonna hurt their economy (as per US & British propaganda), they have got the whiole lot of South American Nation who can cut their OIL bills, if they are to but the Venezuelan oil, and Venenzuelea can seel their OIL too.

well no China is not self sufficient with Oil, Is US Self sufficient?? …. I wonder how many Yank even care to turn off their engine when idiling??…. I guess, almost none … and thats coz none of the Yanks know the value of the things thats they use …..

The Yanks ghet OIL for $2-3 for a Gallon …..rite?? ..which turns out in cents for a Litre.

and we in India gets it for Rs 45 per Litre …. but the funny thing is that even the pathetic Govt say that its lower than the international price and hence subsidised as $3 makes up like nearly Rs 150, but the poor pathetic junks (actually hiding) are fully ignoring the valus in terms of their locality.

And when any product is dearer , the unit of measure gets finer and finer, as u can see in the case of most of Asia, Europe etc (hope its litres, atleast Swiss) makes it in Litres, where as the Yanks gets it in Gallon at a price which most others pay for litre.

are the tail rotors so sensitive?

k here posting it in here too, originally posted there by JC (on BR) , abt the MiG-31 Zalson radar. (from AIR FLEET)

The Zaslon radar pioneered the phased array. To date, there have been no interceptor across the globe that could boast a phased array. Almost all combat capability of the new interceptor emerged due to the phased array radar (PAR).

The radars of the time operated a mechanical drive to scan the aerospace. When the antenna’s ray hit a target, the drive would begin tracking the target, while the pilot would be completely unable to keep abreast of the situation and see any other targets.

The track-while-scan technique is only a partial solution to the problem, since it can provide neither wide coverage areas, nor high precision of the target coordinates.

The emergence of the PAR solves the problem radically. Reorienting the ray in any direction within the cone of 120œ – 140œ takes the radar mere 0.001 sec.

The peak of the whole MiG-31/Zaslon FCS programme was the flight test of 15 February, 1978. On that day, the MiG-31 took off to detect, lock on and track 10 targets simultaneously.

The targets travelled towards the interceptor in two groups at both higher and lower altitudes than that of the MiG-31. The targets were detected and locked on at a range of 140-180 km. Tracking was stable. The experiment was crucial for the interceptor’s designers. It became obvious that their work had come to the fruition. Even though nearly two years of further tests loomed ahead, they were sure they would succeed. The second landmark experiment was the interceptor’s simultaneous destruction of four led targets.

As a result, the following MiG-31 characteristics were confirmed:

– programmed aerospace coverage; detection, lock-on and simultaneous tracking of up to 10 targets within the 50-2,800 m altitude brackets in both good and adverse weather conditions with the enemy electronic countermeasures (ECM) (scan area of -/+ 60œ-70œ;
– detection range for the SR-71 and F-16-like targets against the ground makes up 200 km and 120 km respectively;
– 4-target simultaneous engagement with guided missiles in parallel with calculation of launch parameters;
– control of the interceptor while cueing it in on the targets, discrete target illumination;
– cannon fire;
– passive infrared (IR) target search capability;
– semiautonomous operations of 2-4 MiG-31 teams – a 4-aircraft team could swap data on the 800-km frontage at a distance of up to 2,000 km from the ground command post;
– cueing MiG-23s, MiG-25s, MiG-29s and Su-27s in on targets.

Twenty years later. July 1998. Four Su-30s and two MiG-31s took off the Savasleika AFB (Nizhny Novgorod region) to be joined later by an A-50 airborne early warning and control aircraft and two Il-78 tanker planes. The formation passed along the following route: Savasleika – Astrakhan – Moscow region – Novaya Zemlya archipelago – Savasleika. The crews were not ferrying their aircraft back and forth, rather, they maintained communications among themselves and with the A-50 airborne command post, as well as accomplished a variety of missions en route.

They would assume various group formations – a MiG-31 would lead the Su-30 strike aircraft and enable them attack ground targets, then the Sukhois would protect the MiG-31s from surface-to-air missiles to enable the interceptors to stalk a faraway aerial target and shoot it out of the sky. The MiG-31 Zaslon is still in the inventory and “can destroy the aggressor’s strategic bombers even over the North Pole before they approach close enough to fire their air-launched cruise missiles (ALCM),” says Chief of Russian Air Force’s Main Staff V. Sinitsyn.

For all of us, designers of the MiG-31 Zaslon interceptor, the song rings true: “There’s only ‘MiG’ between the past and the future:”. It is people who create everything in this world. What great designer teams and beautiful personalities used to develop the MiG-31 Zaslon interceptor! Even most prominent of them are too numerous to be mentioned here.

However, the three men whose incredible efforts resulted in the Zaslon should be named – they are Boris Iosifovich Sapsovich, developer of the phased array radar design and technology; Victor Konstantinovich Grishin who created the MiG-31’s general configuration – excellent manager and experimentator; Yevgeny Yakovlevich Savitsky, chairman of the State Flight Testing Commission.

so anyone got any info on the testing of the 6 R-37 on the MiG-31M??

Sean,

BTW, the link to the MiG-31M shows that the payload is 9,000 Kg, which means that it was capable or modified for that and this was carried on to the MiG-31BM later-on.

ALso, wast it not possible to fit the MiG-31 with R-73??

k and a bigger image of the rear cockpit, same as what Paul posted …. I shud have posted this earlier.

Ken,

u got any images of the same??