and the first hanger plan that i created. This one was with the widest possible dimension that i cud sketch …. and i guess some area wud fall out of the lower deck (though not sure) or maybe its just on the edge.

And again….all these are just my speculative plans and the original thing cud differ very much ….. I hope some one over here have the original Gorshkov’s hanger plan and the lower decks plan so as to make out a better plan …..

BTW its just 3 more years wait …

Om now with the ‘default’ extra length given to the aft section of the hanger

Fifth one –
– normal hanger length
– aft elevator enlarged (excluding the Klinok VL area)

Sixth one –
– extended length for hanger in the forward section.
– aft elevator enlarged (excluding the Klinok VL area)

Next series come with the aft hanger further enlarged to take in the Klinok area too. I don know if thats possible, but since its been said that aft elevator is to be enlarged, the possiblity cud also include this ‘vaccant’ area which earlier was occupied by Klinok VLS.

Third one –
– with normal lenght
– Aft elevator enlarged (including the Klinok VL area)

Fourth One
– with lenghthened hanger
– Aft elevator enlarged (including the Klinok VL area)

It may also be possible that this VL area is retained for AD missiles or maybe even stationing PJ-10 , as has been speculated. So the elevator enlargment maynot extend this much.

Don’t know the exact story behind this all, but it is well possible that without the Italian funds the Yak-130 / M-346 would never have been born at all.. As long as Yak gets its orders from RusAF and other potential customers, it is a win-win for both sides.

This situation is nothing new, the same was happening with South Vietnam or Pakistan ordering B-57 instead of British Canberra, Shorts Tucano receiving orders from Kenya and Kuwait instead of the original EMB-312, or T-6A Texan II beating PC-9s in Canada and Greece.

yeah……. its nothing new, but in this age of patents, IPR etc etc…. its the Russians who is losing like this design, coz of finance difficulty and on the other front, Israel making bugs out of every single Russian stuffs ….

Its was the Yakolev design and the Russians unfortunately had to do the deal coz of finances and what they lost was their design and the emergence of a good competing desin (their own design in other brand name)

So I don think it was a win-win situation….. but rather its the Russians who lost their product ……

I guess that you did’nt read Sunday’s Hindu newspaper? Admiral Arun prakash officially confirmed that the ship was going to be INS Vikramaditya. No more “gorshkov” from now on. He also confirmed that the current crew of the Viraat will be going to the new carrier. The latter is great news because the current crew and captain of the Viraat are a truely fantastic bunch.

This sundays??…… well i guess i missed it …. so was it an interview or what?

so that lays to rest the name for the carrier. Good.

the new one seems good on reducing rcs, but I’d have loed to see the Ivan class to get these features with a larger helo capacity (minimum 10) in addition to the troops capacity …

Gorshkov also had that extra 5 m length of flight deck and the island structure too differed which rest of the ships did not have.

and a small stuff from me…..