Nice pictures there Jay ….. Tks

the pctures that u posted actually gives an idea abt its size and the ‘parts’ which can’t be judged from the small pic that i posted….. Grrr8 job man.

But there is also another yakolev Tiltrotor design …… hope some one can post something abt that.

If anyone wants an even bigger laugh then visit the following:

http://www.afa.org/magazine/July2000/0700kosovo.asp

And see how NATO claims that it destroyed 120 tanks, 220 armored personnel carriers, and 450 artillery pieces. The article even claims that the Serbs made an elaborate attempt to hide all the evidence of the hundreds destroyed tanks by repairing them before inspectors had a chance to asses teh damage (I wonder how they did that when some of the factories which built the M-84 tanks are located in Croatia and Slovenia).

I guess when some amateur aircraft enthusiast like Venik makes bogus claims, it’s a real hoot. But when NATO spokesmen make equally bogus claims, no one notices.

Totally agreed .

But I also am sure no one wud ever be able to prove the other way round abt having not lost what Veniks says coz what they have is what NATO and US provides ….. and many expects the guys who participated in campaign to let the truth out???….. well the embedded reporting got the exposure only last tear but it always has been there for the last 50 years ….. anyway good Laugh!

as most Russian seekers have 45-60 Km range and the newer ones made by the Agat has got 90Km
ha, ha , ha the distance a active radar seeker is around 15-25 km

well can u tell me as to which seeker u r mentioning???? the Adder seeker locks on at 20Km …

I might be wrong abt that 45-60 Km for AAM … but then let me dig out that article which had the mention of the new seeker with 90Km ……..

have u heard of Klub and Yakhont/Brahmos ???…… did u ever know that they too have an seeker???….. and there seeker starts its action from arounf 75-60Km …..

and to ad a bit more…… u shoud always think abt Agat when u hear abt the western doses for Belarus and Russia as Belarus is the only one which is firmly a Russian suporter …. and what do the west get from seperating Belarus from Russia??? …… here is what u get —- AGAT …… all the missile sekeekers and missile components that go into Russian missiles are madeby the Belarussian company Agat … or say which went out of Russia when Soviet Union broke ……. now get Belarus out of Russian influence u’ll see all Russian missiles falling off easily and it waan’t long before Yeltsin sold off many exclusive Russian stuffs, wheich even embrassed the then Russian naval official when he was proudly mentioning abt Skhval.