Garry
AIP makes a diesel stealthier by not requiring it to surface or run noisy diesels, but unless it is a fuel cell then it will still make some noise generating power.
yo tks for that one, and yes i was having this in mind as Russians were indeed the first ones to develop the Electrochemical generators (fuel cells) which also got inputs from their space flights etc etc ….. so was considring that maybe that 3.4 m of extra section (same length as that of an Amur AIP section?) maybe using their first generation AIP etc etc ….
and indeed their plan for the third generation AIP is real good with figures like nearly 100 days submerged etc etc which they hope to pull out by 2010 , hope INdia co-develop with the Russians their 2nd Gen AIP , which will also hep the Russians to move forward with their 3rd generation AIP which again also wud be used in IN’s subs too as default of the co-operation …
k mate, as u say ….. but then i guess there also can have some lighter moments too ….
and Ken do have some good Humor tooo …. i though he was a bit ‘serious’ not deviating from topics… but surely not the kind of girlie stuffs that Arthur cracks mostly … (hey don mind man k 🙂 ) …..
hey can u just post pic os the American carrier in the ‘nation having Carrier thread’ …. mean the Kitty Hawk class, Enterprise class, Nimitz class and the other one what was its name …… mean pic of each of these class of American carriers….. and also pic of the old carrier of the USN ….
k but whats the participants from the US side??…will they put in the AWACS and there by IAF able to get the feel of an AWACS asisted kill etc etc…. thats wud be the most useful stuff that IAF can learn from this exercise and so do abt refuelling in the ‘combat zone’ …
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/images/cvn-79.jpg
and this is definetely the most beautiful of them all ….. but wished IN had one of these …this one is simply georgeous ….. anyone got a bigger pic of this same one?? …
kya bidu
Why would an Akula need an AIP?
GDL
I think Blackcat is confused.
Sameer
A nuclear sub with an AIP? huh?
yeah maybe and when i mentioned that i was considering this part from GS
Built to engage surface task forces and coastal facilities, the Akula submarine design was under constant upgrade. NATO designated the Project 971 boats as Akula I, and the Project 971U as “Improved Akula I” while Project 971A was designated Akula II. According to some reports the ‘Akula-II’ class has a 3.7 meter longer hull to accomdate a quieter propulsion system. There is some non-trivial disagreement between authoritative sources as to launch and commission dates for all units, as well as which units are ‘Improved Akula’ vs. ‘Akuka-II’.
so I guessed that it might be AIP ….. AIP is most useful for ambushing and to listen to all ur surroundings for days ahead w/o surfacing at the same time doing rounds at low speeds ….
anyway anyone got better notes as to what that section for more Quieter propulsion system is in the Akula-II ?? ……
Blackcat, for someone vigorously complaining about people not knowing the difference between a White Elephant and a King Elephant, your own English itself is impossible to read. I suggest you try better next time, otherwise i can’t see why the mods should leave a message alone which is unreadable anyway…
k done sir …..
I thought that using text messaging type of language is forbidden?
What exactly is the different between a King Elephant and African Elephant anyhow?
yes thats actually a serious question , the difference btn King Elephant and African Elephant …… but then how can i miss to comment abt the World Cowboy during the height of Iraq Conflict travelling to SA and watching the African Elephants $uck……and $hit, he was looking soooooo stupid sitting on enjoying that ….. maybe the Cowboy has the ans for ur question for the difference …. lol ….
It does not really matter since even the Akula will add quite a punch anyway, me thinks that there is a combo of a lease and tech transfer on certain items for the ATV project under the table but this is INdia’s top secret project, noone really knows, until someone can get me a pic of an Akula in Indian waters, something unlikely for someone to have since it won’t be advertising itself anyway, I will just wait for the ATV news.
yes very true even if it is the Akula-I and the improvement for the IN if this is the one cud include an extra section to have the AIP and ebtire electronics, displays etc etc being agumented … and thats indeed better in any case
Can you give it a rest , I’m getting tired of your constant complaining. Some people do make mistakes and it dosent matter if they are westeners or anyone else. You dont have to call them “Damm” westeners which makes you look like an idiot . I’m sure your foreign language skills are’nt that great either ,so next time look inward before whining.
k if u say so, but that ‘damn’ thing come automatically coz of the western influence, what do u thing??….. Hollywood not changed the language the language around the world with theie $uck, $ick, damn, $hit etc etc???…… and see i do gve give credits to what it is due and the reason y u see the ‘$’ sign where ever i might use all the ‘american’ language ….. k not said that , tks that ur cocerned abt me …. and no prob mate as for my language, am no English, and am an Indian, so it don matter to me as to how i write in here and u can tell that to those who still have some sort of that complex abt the English being superior as the Britishers left it on their way back home … i take pride in my culture and lauguage and thats what important for me and not as to what others think abt how good is my foreign language, but that said I’d love to learn Russian and French … so that ends there, no more on that from me… we can continue the COPE THUNDER
So anyone got more pictures of that CH-53, that one looks soooo cool and good looking, wished the Russians cud remodell the Mi-26 and give it more muscular look like the Ch-53’s …. thats always a beast i loved for its muscular looks but not anywhere near the lift capacity of the ‘soft’ looking Mi-26 …. 126 troops (fell bad when they also get shot and 126 of em die) or 20 tonnes of load thats simply grr8!!!
and Ken,
do u have the same pic or got any better and bigger picture of the Mi-26 lifting the Chinook??? , if its not the same sized pic can u plz post it …
….Oh Buddy US Agent ….. wud u dare to see all the movies that ur govt made for ur taliban brothers (oh meant Mujhadeen at that time) now, or wud ur Govt controlled media even play any of them now in any US channel buddy??…… so stop calling me ur dad as i really get embrassed when ppl call me like that when they hear the truth abt us govt policies .. tks in advance buddy
The IL-76MD is known as the ‘Gajraj’, which is Hindi for ‘White Elephant’, The aircraft that arrived here were painted overall in a semi-gloss grey paint scheme. The IL-78 MKI ‘Midas’ is also painted in the same scheme
FYI and FAOI ….. Gajraj DOES NOT mean White Elephant and these kinds of damn errors are created by these western guys who report and convert what they think might be right or close to what they guess cud be the fact ….
Gaj = Elephant and Raj = King …. thats is normally the tallest or the biggest of the elephant of a herd is often the leader of King of that group and is often termed as Gajraj of the Elephants …… likewise …. in the IAF’s fleet of ‘transporters’ consisting of An-12, An-32 and others when this new chap came he was the biggest of em all and so did the name naturally came on these mighty beasts – IL-76 Gajraj
so guys next time don make such mistakes
and Indian tks for clearing the same for others …..
there can’t be a bigger heavy lift than this one…..anyway anyone got a bigger and better pic of this same one….. lifting the Heavy Chinook from Afghanistan (?) …. thats too so as not to get into the hands of the once American brothers – taliban
hey vampy just share it man …. am falling in love with these now …
k someone bringup that Gorshkov thgread to Navy Thread plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
hey what happened to Gorshkov Saga thread, can some one make it moved to the Navy thread……
tks in advance